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Offline ScreenFoo

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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #210 on: December 19, 2013, 02:10:07 PM »
I was just going to say it strikes me as odd that the very people who scream the loudest that arr dubya bee is such an ass take so many plays from the type of playbook he ran from... but you pretty much just said the same thing, EB.






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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #211 on: December 19, 2013, 02:33:03 PM »
I was just going to say it strikes me as odd that the very people who scream the loudest that arr dubya bee is such an ass take so many plays from the type of playbook he ran from... but you pretty much just said the same thing, EB.

Whoa buddy nobody here steals money like that guy ;)
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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #212 on: December 19, 2013, 02:49:19 PM »
Time to put this thread to bed?
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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #213 on: December 19, 2013, 02:55:38 PM »
I know I am done.  And one final note.  I really wish I only had one department to worry about.

now on to the 18th job that I will be doing today.


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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #214 on: December 19, 2013, 03:01:11 PM »
Time to put this thread to bed?

About 10 pages ago, I would say.
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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #215 on: December 19, 2013, 03:09:39 PM »
I need a break, but before I do, going back to Sam's tired argument of owners versus peons...Who do you think chews ass when someone gets OT when it wasn't needed?  Who do you think makes sure the production floor isn't a death trap?  Who do you think tries everything in his power to be environmentally responsible with our waste?  Who orders UPS labels for shipping/receiving?  Who do you think has to wield the plunger like a sword at least once a week because we have a phantom crapper who clogs the production toilet with their football sized turds?  The answer is...yours truly.

Brandt, would you tell Shelly that she's got no idea how good she's got it not having to deal with what you do on a daily basis?  To her face and expect not to get Homered in the junk?  If in fact you both don't share ownership which I don't know. 

For all the responsibilities that one owner says he has that outweigh the sad employee, their are 10 employees that will say they do way more on a daily basis than an owner of said business.  Responsibilities are different, but work is work and most shops our size don't operate or stay in business without employees doing a ton of work that the owner doesn't want to do or doesn't have time to do.  I concede there are certain things that need to be done by the owners, but to diminish someone's responsibilities or workload simply because they don't have "owner" on their business card or desk plate is one of, if not the most ridiculous comments Sam has ever made. 

Now for all you owners who do a ton more than your employees do, I commend you, but you probably wouldn't come on the forum and try to insult your employees or other non-owners because you have a lot more on your plate than they do.   

My situation isn't that unique.  I bet there are tons of regular ole employees that make just about every decision the high and mighty Palomar Sam makes.   
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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #216 on: December 19, 2013, 03:13:24 PM »
I know I am done.  And one final note.  I really wish I only had one department to worry about.

now on to the 18th job that I will be doing today.



I passed 18 about two hours ago and I'm in a different time zone, poor me.  Hey Tony, how much have you done today? Oh wait, you don't own the business so it doesn't matter to some reading this thread but I'd like to know anyway.
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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #217 on: December 19, 2013, 03:22:02 PM »
you have 18 departments to worry about?  hmmm  really?  doubt it.  and I am not talking down or insulting employees I am saying they are different.  and MY BUSINESS IS ONLY AS GOOD AS MY EMPLOYEES!  I know that and that is why they are very well taken care of. 


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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #218 on: December 19, 2013, 03:33:29 PM »
I need a break, but before I do, going back to Sam's tired argument of owners versus peons...Who do you think chews ass when someone gets OT when it wasn't needed?  Who do you think makes sure the production floor isn't a death trap?  Who do you think tries everything in his power to be environmentally responsible with our waste?  Who orders UPS labels for shipping/receiving?  Who do you think has to wield the plunger like a sword at least once a week because we have a phantom crapper who clogs the production toilet with their football sized turds?  The answer is...yours truly.

Brandt, would you tell Shelly that she's got no idea how good she's got it not having to deal with what you do on a daily basis?  To her face and expect not to get Homered in the junk?  If in fact you both don't share ownership which I don't know. 

You are batting a 1000 on assumptions about me.  Yes actually I would and have, same token I don't exactly know what its like to deal with she deals with either but Shelly is wearing a lot of hats.  Legally I own Graphic Disorder 100%, but consider it at least 49% hers.  I also believe she wouldn't want to be me, just managing our social media is enough to send someone to the loony bin and she has bluntly said she wouldn't want to deal with all I do.  That said I dont feel I have a hard job, but often time consuming.  Makes it tough to run around doing processes so running the business can easily get in the way at times of working IN the business.  Works vice versa too, but as we have become larger and people depend on sales I have to make sure that keeps going number one. 

For all the responsibilities that one owner says he has that outweigh the sad employee, their are 10 employees that will say they do way more on a daily basis than an owner of said business.  Responsibilities are different, but work is work and most shops our size don't operate or stay in business without employees doing a ton of work that the owner doesn't want to do or doesn't have time to do.  I concede there are certain things that need to be done by the owners, but to diminish someone's responsibilities or workload simply because they don't have "owner" on their business card or desk plate is one of, if not the most ridiculous comments Sam has ever made. 

Now for all you owners who do a ton more than your employees do, I commend you, but you probably wouldn't come on the forum and try to insult your employees or other non-owners because you have a lot more on your plate than they do.   

My situation isn't that unique.  I bet there are tons of regular ole employees that make just about every decision the high and mighty Palomar Sam makes.   

I certainly wasn't exactly trying to insult you.  A employee doing "more" doesn't mean that is harder to do deal with than being a owner.  They are 2 very different things IMO. 

I stand by my point: 
I would say if all I had to worry about was screen printing and those processes my life would be exponentially easier.  I think most business owners would agree with that.
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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #219 on: December 19, 2013, 03:34:39 PM »
I don't have time to catch up to all of page 13 here, but regarding proofing; we print out proofs to a laser printer first before we go to film; wouldn't that be a common practice to avoid wasted screens on a DTS?

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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #220 on: December 19, 2013, 03:35:41 PM »
I know I am done.  And one final note.  I really wish I only had one department to worry about.

now on to the 18th job that I will be doing today.



I passed 18 about two hours ago and I'm in a different time zone, poor me.  Hey Tony, how much have you done today? Oh wait, you don't own the business so it doesn't matter to some reading this thread but I'd like to know anyway.

Alan please take this as a friend just making a observation.  You are doing a lot of chest thumping lately and its not your style.  We get it that your better than Sam.  I doubt anyone would debate that.

But remember some shop right now printed more today than you might all month.  Just sayin'.
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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #221 on: December 19, 2013, 03:36:21 PM »
Time to put this thread to bed?

I can't tell - is this an incredibly ironic subtle pun reference given the mention of a certain someone two posts above? ;-)  If you have no idea what I'm talking about...nevermind, but I'm guessing it was intentional? 

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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #222 on: December 19, 2013, 03:41:40 PM »
Man...Does anyone else notice how expensive screen tape can be?

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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #223 on: December 19, 2013, 03:44:00 PM »
I know I am done.  And one final note.  I really wish I only had one department to worry about.

now on to the 18th job that I will be doing today.



I passed 18 about two hours ago and I'm in a different time zone, poor me.  Hey Tony, how much have you done today? Oh wait, you don't own the business so it doesn't matter to some reading this thread but I'd like to know anyway.

I don't like to give out production numbers but we did okay seeing as it is the slow month. Printed a photographic sim process 9 color sample posted earlir today (sorry for the bad pic).
As General Manager for Transcolor I oversaw two facilities; one in Georgia, the other in Los Angeles. 120 employees, belt printers, allover machines and some serious firepower. Owner was in Maryland and I only met him twice. Responsible for sales, production, accounting, finishing dept etc. Certainly felt like an owner. But I don't think I'll ever be one. I'd probably suck at it.

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Re: Wow, Screen Tape Costs!!!
« Reply #224 on: December 19, 2013, 04:34:46 PM »
I certainly wasn't exactly trying to insult you.  A employee doing "more" doesn't mean that is harder to do deal with than being a owner.  They are 2 very different things IMO. 

I stand by my point: 
I would say if all I had to worry about was screen printing and those processes my life would be exponentially easier.  I think most business owners would agree with that.


Man up and call it what it is. For a long time, when confronted with a request for facts, Sam and now yourself take digs on Inkman
and now Alan for not being owners. And when you get called on it ya'll try and pass it off as something else. That's pathetic and cheap
for a whole slew of reasons and you need to stop doing it. Man the eff up.