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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #60 on: October 20, 2013, 10:51:12 AM »
LED for reg film positives, w glass and vacuum?

http://www.mrprint.com/en/Screen%20Exposure%20Units%20&%20CTS%20Systems/Screen%20Exposure%20Systems/Screen%20Printing%20Exposure%20Units/STARLIGHT%20UV%20LED%20Screen%20Exposure%20System

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If there would be just a bit more info about that unit. 3-5 sec. Exposure, how was the screen coated, what mesh count, etc. Unfortunately it looks like it can't hold a tri loc frame. So far there is a unit for the CTS guys and one for shops that obviously don't have use for the tri loc. I hope there will be a third LED unit soon. Would consider buying the starlight if it would be slightly bigger.and by the way the dimensions in CM are totally wrong.


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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #61 on: October 20, 2013, 04:17:47 PM »
LED for reg film positives, w glass and vacuum?

http://www.mrprint.com/en/Screen%20Exposure%20Units%20&%20CTS%20Systems/Screen%20Exposure%20Systems/Screen%20Printing%20Exposure%20Units/STARLIGHT%20UV%20LED%20Screen%20Exposure%20System

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there is a larger one as well. It is called The Starlight 3140. Will be
If there would be just a bit more info about that unit. 3-5 sec. Exposure, how was the screen coated, what mesh count, etc. Unfortunately it looks like it can't hold a tri loc frame. So far there is a unit for the CTS guys and one for shops that obviously don't have use for the tri loc. I hope there will be a third LED unit soon. Would consider buying the starlight if it would be slightly bigger.and by the way the dimensions in CM are totally wrong.
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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #62 on: October 20, 2013, 07:44:27 PM »
LED for reg film positives, w glass and vacuum?

http://www.mrprint.com/en/Screen%20Exposure%20Units%20&%20CTS%20Systems/Screen%20Exposure%20Systems/Screen%20Printing%20Exposure%20Units/STARLIGHT%20UV%20LED%20Screen%20Exposure%20System

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there is a larger one as well. It is called The Starlight 3140. Will be
If there would be just a bit more info about that unit. 3-5 sec. Exposure, how was the screen coated, what mesh count, etc. Unfortunately it looks like it can't hold a tri loc frame. So far there is a unit for the CTS guys and one for shops that obviously don't have use for the tri loc. I hope there will be a third LED unit soon. Would consider buying the starlight if it would be slightly bigger.and by the way the dimensions in CM are totally wrong.


Great that`s going to be ours. Any idea about the price already?

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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #63 on: October 22, 2013, 10:57:11 PM »
Here you guys go... the combined cts and exposure unit from m&r... Now if I could just get rich to send one my way I'll let you all know how it does! ;D

http://www.mrprint.com/en/Screen%20Exposure%20Units%20&%20CTS%20Systems/CTS%20Computer-to-Screen%20Imaging%20Systems/Computer-to-Screen%20Imaging%20Units/I-IMAGE%20STE%20Computer-to-Screen%20Imaging%20&%20Exposure%20System
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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #64 on: October 22, 2013, 11:24:32 PM »
...we are super-stoked here to have actually secured the Starlight demo unit from SGIA! We hope to have it here next week sometime, and not a moment too soon....our old fluo-tube unit has really become a bottleneck here. I will, of course, be sure to let you all know how it works out!

...let it be said that having manufacturer representation on this forum, in this case Rich/244, is a benefit that shouldn't be overlooked. Thanks again Rich!

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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #65 on: October 23, 2013, 09:45:33 AM »
Here you guys go... the combined cts and exposure unit from m&r... Now if I could just get rich to send one my way I'll let you all know how it does! ;D

http://www.mrprint.com/en/Screen%20Exposure%20Units%20&%20CTS%20Systems/CTS%20Computer-to-Screen%20Imaging%20Systems/Computer-to-Screen%20Imaging%20Units/I-IMAGE%20STE%20Computer-to-Screen%20Imaging%20&%20Exposure%20System


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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #66 on: October 23, 2013, 09:57:07 AM »
Did I not see something like this on a post from Germany.  As I recall you put the coated screen in one end and it came out the other end exposed washed out and dry.  Kind of overkill I guess. :o :o
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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #67 on: October 23, 2013, 10:03:25 AM »
Did I not see something like this on a post from Germany.  As I recall you put the coated screen in one end and it came out the other end exposed washed out and dry.  Kind of overkill I guess. :o :o

There was a video posted a few weeks back that had what looked to be about a million dollar machine that the image was burned into the screen via direct light.  No ink or anything on the screen, just a beam of light exposing the image onto the screen.  Now that is amazing technology but not feasible for most. 
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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #68 on: October 23, 2013, 10:19:02 AM »
did not get a chance to check the M&R site yet, but from what I understand, the unit they are showing will print (DTS) and expose as it prints (using LED lights).

The big machine from Germany (about $300K) will actually expose with a laser and then wash out the screen too. There are similar units that can be had for $150K or so, but based on Volkers testing they do not seem to be worth the money.

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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #69 on: October 23, 2013, 10:59:51 AM »
did not get a chance to check the M&R site yet, but from what I understand, the unit they are showing will print (DTS) and expose as it prints (using LED lights).

The big machine from Germany (about $300K) will actually expose with a laser and then wash out the screen too. There are similar units that can be had for $150K or so, but based on Volkers testing they do not seem to be worth the money.

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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #70 on: October 23, 2013, 11:05:39 AM »
did not get a chance to check the M&R site yet, but from what I understand, the unit they are showing will print (DTS) and expose as it prints (using LED lights).

The big machine from Germany (about $300K) will actually expose with a laser and then wash out the screen too. There are similar units that can be had for $150K or so, but based on Volkers testing they do not seem to be worth the money.

pierre

The machine Volker has is amazing. I was looking at the company's website to see if they had a cheep version or what have you. They are based out of Switzerland and have 1 other office, it's in the US and I'll be damned if I haven't been driving by it for the last 4 years everyday on my way in!!! What are the chances? Switzerland and Minnesota? Anyway ya, those suckers are a bit more than a shiny nickle. I'll have to drive by their dumpster on my way home nightly, maybe they throw the old ones away! :P

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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #71 on: October 23, 2013, 11:24:45 AM »
Bet you they don't throw out those blue lasers...(if they're still working, of course.)

And the imagesetter clear film is "supposed" to only block 9% of the UV light and laser paper/vellum blocks 45%.  So perhaps the lack of glass is a bigger time saver than no film.  I would have thought the waterproof inkjet film would block more UV than the glass on our expo unit but I guess I'm wrong.

Should have clarified 'Inkjet' film, but I'm only guessing it's worse than imagesetting film.  IIRC, the stat I had on 1/4" 'low iron' glass was 91% UV transmission, so maybe high quality glass and high quality film are pretty similar.

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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #72 on: October 24, 2013, 07:20:43 PM »
I heard that German machine used a DLP setup for the light source.  That seems to make sense to me.

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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #73 on: October 25, 2013, 02:11:10 AM »
LED for reg film positives, w glass and vacuum?

http://www.mrprint.com/en/Screen%20Exposure%20Units%20&%20CTS%20Systems/Screen%20Exposure%20Systems/Screen%20Printing%20Exposure%20Units/STARLIGHT%20UV%20LED%20Screen%20Exposure%20System

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there is a larger one as well. It is called The Starlight 3140. Will be
If there would be just a bit more info about that unit. 3-5 sec. Exposure, how was the screen coated, what mesh count, etc. Unfortunately it looks like it can't hold a tri loc frame. So far there is a unit for the CTS guys and one for shops that obviously don't have use for the tri loc. I hope there will be a third LED unit soon. Would consider buying the starlight if it would be slightly bigger.and by the way the dimensions in CM are totally wrong.


The Starlight 3140 will be available this year?Would love to buy some new equipment before the end of the year. I will get Rick to email me  quote anyway.

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Re: Vastex 2000 LED exposure unit teaser
« Reply #74 on: October 30, 2013, 03:32:10 PM »
I heard that German machine used a DLP setup for the light source.  That seems to make sense to me.

Does look like it could be a projector, but a laser with a scanning mirror array could look just like that as well in a video.  I think the question is what DLP stands for--digital light projection, or process.

Any tech docs in English?  ;)