Wilflex IMS and Sartorius

[ebscreen]

Does anybody use the Wilflex software and one of the scales they can connect to?
Particularly for the Epic PC Express system? (think it's be overkill on anything else)

From what I can tell it looks like the bee's knees, but first hand experiences are
always welcome.

[beanie357]

Yep.
Nobody can't mix ink. Unless they do not stir well.
We use the PC system.

[Prosperi-Tees]

Dont know about the mixing system but keep the scale out of a breezy area or it will go crazy

[ZooCity]

Got the whole shebang yet have not hooked it all up.  Really like the Sartorius scale though.

[Rockers]

The Sartorius scale seemed to be kind of expensive and as far as I know, but I might be wrong, it should work with any scale that can be hooked up to your pc. Will set our system up next week then I will know more.

[tonypep]

Not sure if they still do this but some of the majors will hook you up with the scale and software if you commit to their products

[Zelko-4-EVA]

we use the Epic PC system, the Wilflex software is loaded on an old Windows 98 machine, the Sartorius scale connects via serial port.

no issues with software - works great

the one thing i love about the scale talking to the software is if you put too much of one pigment in, there is a button that says "auto correct for errors".  press the button and the software will recalculate how much more you will have to add of the base and other pigments.  i frequently accidentally add too much PC Extra White - its so heavy that i cant put any back in the pigment bucket - its already sunk to the bottom of the bucket.

[tonypep]

I was waiting for that D!

[Zelko-4-EVA]

I was waiting for that D!

i love the autocorrect for errors button. 

although i do somewhat miss using the rutland M2 system and autocorrecting for errors with a pad of paper and a pen.

[Rob Coleman]

we use the Epic PC system, the Wilflex software is loaded on an old Windows 98 machine, the Sartorius scale connects via serial port.

no issues with software - works great

the one thing i love about the scale talking to the software is if you put too much of one pigment in, there is a button that says "auto correct for errors".  press the button and the software will recalculate how much more you will have to add of the base and other pigments.  i frequently accidentally add too much PC Extra White - its so heavy that i cant put any back in the pigment bucket - its already sunk to the bottom of the bucket.

This is a great point.  The Extra White PC weighs 19 lbs per gallon!  Heavy stuff!  I always find that it is best to weigh the base, and then ALWAYS weigh the Extra White PC first ... that way if I over add, i can pull some back out.

The scale link is awesome.  The new Sartorious scale from PolyOne - Sartorius PMA 7501 - has been updated to include a custom formatted USB connector to communicate to the Ink Management Software.  All communications to the IMS will be via USB instead of a 9 pin cable.

[Zelko-4-EVA]

we use the Epic PC system, the Wilflex software is loaded on an old Windows 98 machine, the Sartorius scale connects via serial port.

no issues with software - works great

the one thing i love about the scale talking to the software is if you put too much of one pigment in, there is a button that says "auto correct for errors".  press the button and the software will recalculate how much more you will have to add of the base and other pigments.  i frequently accidentally add too much PC Extra White - its so heavy that i cant put any back in the pigment bucket - its already sunk to the bottom of the bucket.

This is a great point.  The Extra White PC weighs 19 lbs per gallon!  Heavy stuff!  I always find that it is best to weigh the base, and then ALWAYS weigh the Extra White PC first ... that way if I over add, i can pull some back out.

The scale link is awesome.  The new Sartorious scale from PolyOne - Sartorius PMA 7501 - has been updated to include a custom formatted USB connector to communicate to the Ink Management Software.  All communications to the IMS will be via USB instead of a 9 pin cable.

Rob - will Wilflex/Nazdar sell just the USB cable?   when the win98 machine dies its going to be interesting to find a computer with a serial cable (unless i buy an adapter card)

we have the PMA 7500 scale, would it work with this scale too?

thanks

[Rob Coleman]

Wilflex has this part number for connecting your 7500 scale to a newer (USB) computer - Sartorius YC012-USB-SBI Transfer Cable.  Cost is ~$100.

They have ONE of these in inventory.  Not trying to say you should order now, I assume they can get more.  BUT ... might be prudent!

Hope this helps!

[GraphicDisorder]

Sounds interesting.  Ill just use my USPS scale though. 



LMAO

[ebscreen]

Ahhh, just eyeball spoonfuls Brandt. It'll be close.


Thanks for the info dudes. The correct for errors sounds awesome, we've all been there.
The version of Wilflex IMS that we have looks like it only supports serial connection so that's
what I had planned on, but a USB version sounds uhh, more modern.

I'm having a buddy build me a stainless table with inset holders per PC container as demonstrated
by a few folks on here. Original idea was to slide the scale down the table as you go along the mix,
but now that I think about it, moving the scale is probably a bad idea.

I do believe that any scale with a computer connection will do the same thing, basically just
tells the computer what it's seeing. Sartorius is the most common over here though, we share
them with the auto paint guys. (eyeball that!)

[Zelko-4-EVA]

Ahhh, just eyeball spoonfuls Brandt. It'll be close.


Thanks for the info dudes. The correct for errors sounds awesome, we've all been there.
The version of Wilflex IMS that we have looks like it only supports serial connection so that's
what I had planned on, but a USB version sounds uhh, more modern.

I'm having a buddy build me a stainless table with inset holders per PC container as demonstrated
by a few folks on here. Original idea was to slide the scale down the table as you go along the mix,
but now that I think about it, moving the scale is probably a bad idea.

I do believe that any scale with a computer connection will do the same thing, basically just
tells the computer what it's seeing. Sartorius is the most common over here though, we share
them with the auto paint guys. (eyeball that!)

our ink table was given to us by a competitor of wilflex - the scale was battery powered and sat on a tiny wheeled platform - add an ink and push it down the line.  it was all fine and dandy until someone wasnt paying attention and pushed it off the table.