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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #15 on: July 13, 2011, 04:25:42 PM »
my shop is about 20 ft wide by about 40 ft long. I kinda like the idea of the oval since they are hydraulic operated (chain) is that right?

I will have to research the Rototex more. Are parts available for either the Rototex or Precision Oval?


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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #16 on: July 13, 2011, 04:59:00 PM »
Rototex is going to be nearly all local hardware store/McMaster Carr. And aero-inc.com will have the rest.
I know there's some things on the oval's that are hard to get. Hell, pallets and squeegees for one. Rototex
uses American (Multiprinter, etc) pallets and M&R squeegees.






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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #17 on: July 13, 2011, 05:12:56 PM »
Ok the research begins on American Rototex and Precision Oval. Should be fun.

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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #18 on: July 13, 2011, 05:15:11 PM »
Ok my bank just shot me down for a new automatic so I am wondering if anyone has an inexpensive automatic in good working order in the California area? All brands considered. You can email me at gerry@prosperitees.org Thanks
I think Inkman might have something for you.
I would not mind having that press but they would have to be the banker and I am sure that wont happen.

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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #19 on: July 13, 2011, 05:23:21 PM »
Check out an old precision oval.  I've heard you cannot knock those out of registration.

Had one, printed 1 job on it and sold it. Kinda of a bummer because I was excited to have an auto and it made my shop look more professional to the customers but it was a real POS and a PITA.
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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2011, 05:49:16 PM »
5 Color Rototex on DS but its the furthest away it could be in New Jersey! lol

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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2011, 05:51:37 PM »
Bet you'd find someone to haul it over for 1K. You can teardown/setup yourself if need be.
Literally 4 bolts per head and pallet.

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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #22 on: July 13, 2011, 07:41:33 PM »
What about an old javelin?  They are tanks, totally rebuildable and can get you started.

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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #23 on: July 13, 2011, 07:47:30 PM »
The only reason I ever stayed away from Javelin's is non-standard accessories
(pallets, squeegees, floodbars), the V-Squeegee and that they are all air.
Rototex is all electric except the choppers/index fork. Viva Rototex!

To the OP, there was a guy in the Bay Area that had one awhile back, see if
I can find him.




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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #24 on: July 13, 2011, 08:03:33 PM »
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talk to the manufacturers of the equipment you are looking to buy. Most of them are working with somebody that will finance the equipment. Also since they know the equipment and the business better, they are more likely to approve.

think new car and used car lot. New is always easier to get and the interest rates are lower!

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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2011, 08:37:46 PM »
The only reason I ever stayed away from Javelin's is non-standard accessories
(pallets, squeegees, floodbars), the V-Squeegee and that they are all air.
Rototex is all electric except the choppers/index fork. Viva Rototex!

To the OP, there was a guy in the Bay Area that had one awhile back, see if
I can find him.

Yea v-squeegees kind of suck, and all air means big compressor and noise unless you get a screw.

Standardizing accessories on a tight budget wouldn't matter to me, but like Pierre said, if you can talk to the Manu about some more reasonable interest rates the definitely go for new, no reason to add someone else's problems/bad habits to your learning curve if you can avoid it.

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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2011, 09:33:57 PM »
I have no idea where this is....or how old it is....    But sounds like a helluva price.

http://www.signweb.com/forum/for-sale/6-color-1-station-rototex-manual-textile-printer-850

Cancel that.....I guess it's a manual
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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2011, 10:06:10 PM »
That lawson appolo could be a good machine...i would check that out.. I personally would not be and dont  think you will be happy with a old precision or rototex.  a MULTIPRINTER?  MAYBE. The thought of a good cheap auto is exciting but the set up times and flashing on a oval is a real PAIN, squeegie pressures on the americans will be a daily battle. the novelty will quickly wear off. someone suggested a tuf javlin(great press) if your serious, 22% is really not that bad considering the payback.. you will save the 22% in set up times and test shirts.  i have been down both roads(several times..lol)   get the right equipment and start making money..just my .02
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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2011, 10:12:07 PM »
If all goes well in the next day or so, I will have a nicely maintained gauntlet for sale, CHEAP. . we have this thing back to mint too. . .runs like a champ.
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Re: Inexpensive automatic wanted
« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2011, 10:38:10 PM »
unfortunately, you're too far from me.
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