Epic Curable Reducer or Finesse?

[jvanick]

now that I'm starting to print a lot more jobs on the auto, I seem to need to thin my inks a bit... trying to figure out which of the following I should be using:

I typically print with Wilflex inks, so...

which is my better choice to get a softer hand and better printability Epic Finesse or just the standard Epic Curable reducer...

I could buy a gallon of each, but if somebody else as already gone through this exercise, would be cool to hear the opinions...

Thanks!
-J

[Zelko-4-EVA]

we are using the PC system on our autos (and manual) and are not thinned unless the customer specifies it.

when we thin our inks we use SHC10140 Soft Hand Clear.

[dirkdiggler]

all of those will work.  I think Finesse is cheapest, so I would do that.  That's what I do.  WHen needed, but honestly, its rarely needed in wilflex inks.  I only do it to extend my bucket.

[GaryG]

Yeah mostly Wilflex here too, and recently went to Curable Reducer for the most part.
Finesse is thicker and used more to -extend (eg: make black go longer 10-30% and higher) than reduce.
Curable reducer 5-10% as specified to thin.

[jvanick]

so I'm just getting started on the auto and it was a wierd problem for us:

I was having problems with Epic black on the auto, like it was too thick or something, it wouldn't clear the screen... we had a quart of IC's black and a bit of IC's curable reducer, printed just fine on the auto, same setup, pressure, angle, everything... all I did was clear the epic out, and put the ic in, and problems went away.

epic white prints out of the bucket, no problems at all...  go figure.

-J

[dirkdiggler]

epic matte black out of the bucket is the dogs bollucks!  if you are having trouble with it, you shouldn't.  send it back or check your procedure.

[ZooCity]

epic matte black out of the bucket is the dogs bollucks!  if you are having trouble with it, you shouldn't.  send it back or check your procedure.

Indeed.  Never a single modification needed with that ink.  It's the nuts.  Sounds like your bucket might've gotten partially cured in transit?  Try stirring.

[JBLUE]

He does have a Javelin. Not meant as a knock at all on the press but you do have to do things a little different when running the V squeegee. I cut my teeth on a Jav and when I went to my M&R it was a learning curve in the opposite direction. The best thing to do is get setup with some triple duro squeegees. It will make a world of difference on that machine.