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Offline Donnie

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Shopping for new go to white ink.
« on: July 15, 2013, 04:32:56 PM »
I started out using One Stroke Premium white. Really good general purpose white, but it's a bitch in the winter. I switched to Rutland Snap white. Really good creamy white and doesn't get it's panties in so much of a wad when cold, but even though it's supposed to be low bleed, it has  bled some 50/50s. It also seems to be a little on the heat sensitive side. I've had it bubble in temps that I had no problems with One Stroke which on a temp gun (I know) register about 360ish. So what's everyone else's go to white.


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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 04:34:55 PM »
Just came up again recently here
http://www.theshirtboard.com/index.php/topic,8573.0.html

and btw, I still like the Rutland Streetfighters, assuming that they still have both a cotton and low bleed (many seem to just stay with the low bleed for everything)
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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 04:36:51 PM »
StreetFighter cotton and LB. Works for us.

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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 04:47:22 PM »
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Offline Donnie

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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 04:49:07 PM »
Thanks for the link... I had read some of the posts but not all. A lot of info on the later posts...

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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 04:57:35 PM »
Wilflex Solar White for cotton and Triangle Phoenix white for blends. Whites are tough, one guy likes this and another can't get it to work....One Stroke makes a great ink and I don't really care that they are expensive - but the damn sales calls are down right annoying.. Lots of good words about Quick white and Buffalo white is another good one. I'm sure sonny will put his nose in here about xenon....


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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 06:27:45 PM »
Wilflex Epic Quick.  Low bleed, prints like butter on a manual or an auto, very opaque, holds excellent dot shape and costs too much.  I throw it on cotton, poly, blends, tri-blends...pretty much anything but 100% poly or printed fabrics that need a lower cure temp.

I pay the extra change for it to have the same ink in that 5gal every time I buy it.  There's enough challenges involved with printing white plastisol as it, tossing in a variable ink formulation isn't going to help. 

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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 07:07:59 PM »
Wilflex Epic Quick.  Low bleed, prints like butter on a manual or an auto, very opaque, holds excellent dot shape and costs too much.  I throw it on cotton, poly, blends, tri-blends...pretty much anything but 100% poly or printed fabrics that need a lower cure temp.

I pay the extra change for it to have the same ink in that 5gal every time I buy it.  There's enough challenges involved with printing white plastisol as it, tossing in a variable ink formulation isn't going to help.

What he said. Especially about holding a clean dot.
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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 07:26:09 PM »
I've tried triangle white and it has a bit too much puff. Sonny's white is OK but its a squeegie climbing bitch. Most of my printing involves white ink. I don't mind paying more if it works. I might give Epic Quick a go.

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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 07:33:18 PM »
Sprint quick and poly.
All Wilflex.
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We a-b test constantly with every frekin white we find.
Head 1 and head 10 set up identical.
Our price is just not bad and we found nothing beating these.........yet.
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Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #10 on: July 16, 2013, 02:39:33 PM »
Just so all know - Wilflex Quick and Wilflex Sprint are sister products.  Only difference is Quick has LB properties and Sprint is Cotton only.  Thus Sprint is less $/gal.
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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2013, 05:16:14 PM »
Just looked at our latest invoice...our quick white went up almost $80 for 5 gal.  In less than a couple years Wilflex Quick White has gone up over $100 for a 5 gal.  Pretty upsurd.

Considering testing some other whites out and switching.  Thinking rutland street fighter most likely.

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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2013, 05:40:59 PM »
Just looked at our latest invoice...our quick white went up almost $80 for 5 gal.  In less than a couple years Wilflex Quick White has gone up over $100 for a 5 gal.  Pretty upsurd.

Considering testing some other whites out and switching.  Thinking rutland street fighter most likely.

agreed, I am doing the same.
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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2013, 05:49:08 PM »
That's exactly why we changed, quick went from 265 for a 5er to 385, tried a few that were good, but really happy with street fighter. Tubelite just sent me a price today, 192 for sf cotton, non phthlate claria series, and 198 for sf low bleed, non phthalate claria series, both were quotes for 5 gals. I dig it.
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Re: Shopping for new go to white ink.
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 05:52:02 PM »
FYI on the WFX Quick pricing, we don't buy anything resembling high volume of it, a handful of 5ers a year but Nazdar gave us a discount rate on all WFX and it's affordable now. 

I agree that list pricing on WFX Epic has spun out of control.  Polyone is a big co., presumably with a lot of buying power, and I sincerely doubt they are arbitrarily raising prices.  The cost of their raw materials must be spiking.  I wonder what that means for the state of quality ink pricing across the board.