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Offline ZooCity

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2013, 05:20:15 PM »
haha, I've only had a couple "f*ck you" moments with our GT fortunately, it gets a lot of love from us.

If you get down to nuts and bolts a lot of it's key components are identical to newer models.  For instance the stroke cyl is not much different from new diamond backs and Sportsman's from what I can see.  So the flood and sq are getting pulled with essentially the same part on this machine as a 2013 model. I think they have a lot going for them, it's really this deflection issue that's killing me.  There's no clean way around it, just a design/build issue, nothing "wrong" just not quite right. 

I just keep telling my printer how good we're going to be at running autos if we can make it all work on this one.  It's good training as it forces you to think about things that newer, fancier presses might cover up.

How does a series II compare with the deflection issues Homer?   


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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2013, 05:37:35 PM »
Are you guys choking your underbase or spreading your top colors? I am finding that I could get away without choking or spreading on the manual and that just aint happening on the auto.

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2013, 05:59:37 PM »
Are you guys choking your underbase or spreading your top colors? I am finding that I could get away without choking or spreading on the manual and that just aint happening on the auto.

Generally same pre press as for the manual here.  One thing we will do on certain single color prints needing a UB sometimes is use the same color ink on the UB screen as the top color screen.  Just makes regging it up super fast on these presses where micro bumps can be a headache. 

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2013, 08:13:39 PM »
My gauntlet II has a spot worn in the control panel from me hugging it  :o...both machines are all air and the G2 prints almost like ac -minus the cool sounds when it prints, and compared to the '94, it's night and day....I can't say we have this deflection issue you are having, you're on S mesh and rollers so pressure must be at minimum, even with dc prints, we don't have that much
...keep doing what you're doing, you'll only get what you've got...

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2013, 10:39:00 PM »
Has anyone upgraded their compressor with more CFM and had to adjust the indexer?

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2013, 11:06:18 AM »
you guys will find this funny...but I actually like the gauntlet better than the RPM in some ways.

The gauntlet was a trooper.  We had that press so dialed in that it wasn't even funny.  I could print with zero trap and line everything up fine...with statics.  I could get prints that felt like transfers.  Ahh, I miss that poor bastard.

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2013, 12:22:58 PM »
Has anyone upgraded their compressor with more CFM and had to adjust the indexer?

CFM shouldn't affect anything. Pressure will though.

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2013, 12:24:46 PM »
That's encouraging Brad. 

Homer, I'm jealous.

Gerry, as long as the previous compressor wasn't starving the press for air there should be no change.  The FLR on the press is going to regulate things. 

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2013, 07:14:57 PM »
Ahh I just finished printing 150 pieces PFP and realized I need to round the edges of the squeegees.

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2013, 07:36:08 PM »
Ahh I just finished printing 150 pieces PFP and realized I need to round the edges of the squeegees.

Yessir. they'll tear the screens up pretty bad

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2013, 07:58:06 PM »
Did you do Revolver Jerry?
If so, how did you like it on 150?

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2013, 08:44:16 PM »
Manual revolver lol. I am having some growing pains actually. The print was a golden yellow on navy. I initially had an underbase screen in head one choked back 1 pt and the top color in head 8. I got it lined up but the spread of the top color looked horrible where it fell off the underbase. I tried adjusting pressures and angles and just gave up and put the top color in head 1 and sent it around twice. I hated it but the print came out nice after I added some dulling paste to the yellow.

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2013, 09:27:13 PM »
Perfectionist, 1pt couldn't of looked that bad.
I find go around twice w/o revolver on the smaller runs works,
just say, "Don't pull, don't pull, don't pull...Pull!!
The alarm is nice sometimes though.

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2013, 09:33:25 PM »
Perfectionist, 1pt couldn't of looked that bad.
I find go around twice w/o revolver on the smaller runs works,
just say, "Don't pull, don't pull, don't pull...Pull!!
The alarm is nice sometimes though.
It didn't look that bad although I hated it totally but we were matching a previous print from another shop and they just PFP as well so to me it looked bad. Our PFP looked alot better though! On the first hit I just ran them by pushing the manual switch and when it came around I switched to auto as im still getting back into the groove of loading an auto.

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Re: The Hot Rod Gauntlet Thread
« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2013, 09:40:08 PM »
I wish the triloc would work on the Gauntlet. Im having a heck of a time getting used to the micros. I have a challenge coming up as well, 5 color back with an underbase, 4 color bottom front with an underbase bottom and a 3 color center chest with an underbase! Wish me luck, that's just one order. After that comes a 4 color with underbase! Im thinking I need to start using discharge again but the setup times would be hard to deal with ink in the screens not to mention our dryer would be a bottleneck.