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I have 23x31 MZX. They can't be stretched over 30N because they deflect too much on the long side. stretching over 30 will put allot of stress on the joints where the hex or octagon shape meets the tube. Later on the joints would just break.since your frames are longer than 31. max tension must be reduced for the MZX.you can learn to stretch bulk with a 62/cm to a 90/cm normal diameter. but a 120/cm is quite frustrating because the alignment clip can leave micro fracture that can't be see if you don't look for it.for a 14/cm mesh. I find it difficult to put the locking strip in due to the thick thread.we use tape because we are not too careful with our frames.
Pierre,What are looking for the Newman's to provide that the Shurloc frames are not giving you? I run both styles of frames on my MHM S machine. Robert
Quote from: T Shirt Farmer on April 18, 2013, 09:22:05 PMPierre,What are looking for the Newman's to provide that the Shurloc frames are not giving you? I run both styles of frames on my MHM S machine. Roberttwo things. . .first, being able to have all the frames at the same tension. In order to make the press output more uniform/predictable all the frames should be at exactly the same tension. Right now, we are breaking the EZ frame mesh and when we replace it, tension is higher on the new ones than on the old frames. This causes the ink deposits to vary between the frames. I am hoping that the ability to retention will give us more consistency.second, and this might be false math, but I think that buying bulk mesh will be cheaper than buying panels. pierre
I am not concerned with the cost aspect very much regarding frames and mesh. I have roller frames that are at least 10 years old and have been cycled tens of thousands of times. All my frames have mesh panels and they get cycled thru at a minimum of a hundred if not hundreds of times before needing to be replaced. When you amortize the up front cost over the life span the per cycle cost is next to nothing. So if panels make life a bit easier it is well worth it in the long run and few can argue how much easier it is to train a person to install panels vs bulk mesh.Pierre you will be spending a considerable amount of time to keep a bulk amount of rollers at the same tension if you are wanting + / - a couple of newtons, you will also need a roller table which are pretty expensive. Not saying the effort is not time well spent if your prints dictate the need. You will also have a much shorter free area of usable image area with rollers. We can usually put 2 images on one shulock frame but rarely get away with it on the 23x31 rollers.just my thoughts
second, and this might be false math, but I think that buying bulk mesh will be cheaper than buying panels. pierre