Coreldraw X5, how do I outline a text to where half the outline is NOT behind

[Mark @ Hurricane Printing]

Coreldraw X5, how do I outline a text to where half the outline is NOT behind the image? WHen I am printing my seps out the outline is not butting up against the image..half of the outline is bleeding into the image. I just want the outline/border to outline the exact perimeter of the image.

When I do the behind fill feature, I am able to see how much of the outline/border is being blocked out.

[inkman996]

You don't.

You use contour instead

[Frog]

I'm a little confused. CorelDRAW outlines straddle the edge of the text or object, but that in and of itself does not "hide" half of the outline. That is merely how it displays when you tell it to go behind the fill.

Are you sure that you are setting your outline for the thickness you actually want?

[Chadwick]

Outlines:

[Homer]

there's this sign for a used car lot I drive by once in a while. The "designer" that made the sign put the white outline in front of the light orange fill, choking out the text...one of these days I am going to pull over, piss on the sign and donkey kick the owner in the balls for buying it.

sorry I have nothing else to add.

[Chadwick]

Tis the curse of knowledge.
You understand just how bad the other guy f'cked up.

The whole conundrum on this, is the wording of the question.
Which, by the way, still makes no sense.

[Mark @ Hurricane Printing]

Tis the curse of knowledge.
You understand just how bad the other guy f'cked up.

The whole conundrum on this, is the wording of the question.
Which, by the way, still makes no sense.

I'm sorry...to me it is hard to explain. I know when I put, for example, and outline on some text and say I use a 4 point stroke....if I have "behind fill" checked off then 2 strokes go behind the text and two are on the outline one the text...if behind fill is NOT check off then I get 2 strokes on top of the text and again 2 strokes on the outside of the text....How do I get the whole 4 point stroke to stay on the outside of the text???....without making it an 8 point stroke....I want no pen stroke behind the text or on top of the text.

[mooseman]

Does this help?
mooseman

[aauusa]

I'm sorry...to me it is hard to explain. I know when I put, for example, and outline on some text and say I use a 4 point stroke....if I have "behind fill" checked off then 2 strokes go behind the text and two are on the outline one the text...if behind fill is NOT check off then I get 2 strokes on top of the text and again 2 strokes on the outside of the text....How do I get the whole 4 point stroke to stay on the outside of the text???....without making it an 8 point stroke....I want no pen stroke behind the text or on top of the text.


[/quote]

you want to contour not a outline.  a contour will place the stroke/contour (what you are calling an outline )  just around the outside of the object.

[Inkworks]

From what you describe, what you want is an outline that is not covered by the original text at all, here is what I would do.

Duplicate (ctrl+D) the text (Place duplicate set at x=0.000"  y=0.000")
Nudge (Arrow keys on keyboard) it into open space so you can see what you're doing (set your nudge distance to nudge it out of the way in a single nudge makes things easier.)
Convert to Curves (crtl+ Q)
Contour out 0.055" ( I think that's 4 points? I never use points myself, just thousands of an inch up here in Metric Canada  )
Break apart (ctrl+K) Contour Group
Combine (ctrl+L) converted to curves text with contour line
Nudge back into place

Now you have a separate object that exactly fits the original and is the exact outline that you want. I can't think of too many situations where I would do it like this, even though I manually sep a lot of jobs for screenprinting, vinylcutting or lasering. Moosemans post is usually the go-to trick, just make sure to keep outlines "scale to image" so it doesn't trip you up if you ever re-size.

With keyboard short cuts that's about 15 seconds work.

[Im-Magic]

If you want four strokes on the outside of the text the put an eight stoke outline on it and say behind text, then 4 strokes will be outside the text and 4 stokes under the text

[Mark @ Hurricane Printing]

If you want four strokes on the outside of the text the put an eight stoke outline on it and say behind text, then 4 strokes will be outside the text and 4 stokes under the text

thats just the thing....i dont want any strokes under the text.

[inkman996]

There is two ways of doing this, use a stroke like mentioned then convert that stroke to an object and then trim it with the original object. That will leave only what you see on the out side. Problem with this is Corel struggles with any object that gets complex with shaping commands. Outlines are notorious for making extremely complex paths and wonky nodes all over the place, text is usually the worse.

The other way is use a contour, the contour will be one solid object behind the original which you will have to also trim with the top object but contours tend to come out less complex and wonky as converted out lines.

In my case none of this is useful because all my seps are done manually, I simply turn everything I do not want on one color plate to white and what I do want to black. If I have a three color job I copy the original, I then paste it into three new pages. The first page is left as is for future use or as a color composite. I simply got to the next page lets say it will be red, I color everything that is not red white then make all the red black and so on to the rest. This way i never have to worry about bad paths and shaping issues, I also never have to worry about objects behind other objects causing issues, BTW nothing is set to over print.

[Gabe]

In this particular case illy does a better job with one click of the mouse
i was hoping when X6 was released to have this feature, that said
I`m with Inkman
Gabe

[Im-Magic]

I am with Inkman as well I have been using Corel since 1994 and that is the way I have always done my seps.