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Offline Mark @ Hurricane Printing

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Do I need an underbase for this pocket logo?
« on: March 12, 2013, 11:30:00 AM »
I have a job to print 4 colors on pockets. The color of the shirts are red, yellow and grey.

The colors going on the pocket are typical colors of Red; White; Blue and Black.....Red and Blue are the colors of the font's, just two big letters "ML"....the black is a simple border around the letters...and the white is a very small flame & snow flake in the design.

Of course I wont print red on red shirts but for all the other color shirts would I require an underbase?

Here is a pic of it on the grey shirt, which does not require an underbase....I'm thinking on the yellow and red shirts an underbase should be required.

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Re: Do I need an underbase for this pocket logo?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2013, 11:35:32 AM »
Yes, an underbase and for consistency and ease of production so you don't fart around with not printing this and do print that..., I'd leave it (as is) on every color. Meaning, print white ink on white...red ink on red..blue ink on blue shirts (as an example).  Run that baby. You gotta print white ink anyways for the star, you use an underbase.
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Re: Do I need an underbase for this pocket logo?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 12:06:56 PM »
Yes, an underbase and for consistency and ease of production so you don't fart around with not printing this and do print that..., I'd leave it (as is) on every color. Meaning, print white ink on white...red ink on red..blue ink on blue shirts (as an example).  Run that baby. You gotta print white ink anyways for the star, you use an underbase.

If I go that route I may hire you to create the underbase. I will email you the file if I do it with the underbase. I have the file in vector based. Was created in coreldraw x5.
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Re: Do I need an underbase for this pocket logo?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 12:11:29 PM »
I would not print an underbase cuz the shirt colors can handle all those colors with no problem, I agree with Dan print all colors on all shirts no matter the color, you'll can tell that a red print is on a red shirt.  I would also use low mesh ct 110's better ink coverage....

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Re: Do I need an underbase for this pocket logo?
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2013, 01:51:53 AM »
Dan nailed it. For consistency in the ink colors on the different shirt colors, underbase the buggers and let 'er rip. No stopping production to "change things up". Underbasing that will also allow you to use higher mesh counts to avoid a thick heavy rubbery bulletproof print.... unless that's what the customer wants.
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Re: Do I need an underbase for this pocket logo?
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2013, 11:16:55 AM »
Well doggone I'm wrong on this one :'(

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Re: Do I need an underbase for this pocket logo?
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2013, 11:36:59 AM »
Well doggone I'm wrong on this one :'(

Darryl


Not wrong, just different.   Half the shops focus on using higher mesh (for a softer hand) in general, and other shops just do standard printing.


These shops that do standard printing will be the ones that have a strong arsenal of 110 and 156 mesh for most of the printing and on average for them, a high mesh might be a 230.


For example you could run this with a blue ink on a yellow tee with no underbase../on low mesh like a 110 for a heavier coverage (especially since it's a left chest print) and not very big.


So you'd not be "wrong" and just as good...or wouldn't be much different in quality, except for the feel.
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Re: Do I need an underbase for this pocket logo?
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2013, 11:57:21 AM »
Thanks Dan for hitting me side the head with a soft pillow LOL, but you are right I use those meshes, but I also tend to use 280 to 305's just depend on what I'm printing and method.  Reason I said 110 is possible of just getting one good stroke and done.

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