honeycomb pallets???

[Screened Gear]

How hot can honeycomb pallets get before they start to delaminated?

[Ryan]

mine say that they can't get hotter than 250 celcius (400 degrees?) Not willing to find out either. I don't like when they start "crackling" when I'm trying to get them warm. I assume they are manufactured the "same" as yours.

[mk162]

how are the made?  or rather, what makes them "honeycomb?  I have never seen them in person before and have always wondered this.

[Screened Gear]

They are 4 pieces. Top and bottom is a thin sheet of aluminum. The center (meat) is the honeycomb. It is super light but very strong after the top and bottom is glued on. Then some edging is added to cover the honeycomb the edge is not needed for support just to cover so no snags and looks good.

[Screened Gear]

400 degrees sounds way to high. That can't be right. If it was that high then they would never warn us about getting them too hot.

I bet 244 knows.

[ebscreen]

It is essentially like honeycomb.

Pressing the flash button too many times in a row with too long of a flash will delaminate your pallets.
Ask me how I know. 400 degrees is way too hot.


I'm actually still on the fence about them. Super light, super fast, but I hate how fragile they are and I hate
how quickly they warm up and cool down.

[ScreenFoo]

Hmmm... I and other people here long before me have burned the nitrile on 4 old HC platens and two that are real beat are tweaked, two are still flat and solid.  Old M&R, probably from the nineties though, perhaps they're speccing a different type of honeycomb material these days.

[mk162]

are you sure they are HC, I didn't think M&R made them in the 90's.  I thought they were flat aluminum

[blue moon]

from what I remember 180 voids warranty.
we keep ours below 120 for the most part. I think we hit 140 with two flashes, but that is few times per year. . .

If you can't keep your hand on them, they are probably too hot.

pierre

[cvreeland]

M&R briefly made 'em in the mid-late 90's. They sucked, everyone hated 'em, & they went right back to solid aluminum pretty quickly, like within a year. I got a couple with our recent purchase of a '99 Gauntlet, so they're probably the two remaining original pallets out of 12. Either that, or the guy who sold the press saw an opportunity to ditch 'em with the machine.

[ScreenFoo]

Actually, the Blue Max was purchased new, probably in 92 or 93, and I'd be absolutely amazed if those platens are anything but stock. 

I could be mistaken--perhaps they are some other sort of sandwiched construction, but I'd say with some certainty that they aren't solid.

[Screened Gear]

from what I remember 180 voids warranty.
we keep ours below 120 for the most part. I think we hit 140 with two flashes, but that is few times per year. . .

If you can't keep your hand on them, they are probably too hot.

pierre

That is what I was thinking. I didn't know about a warranty. I can hardly get mine over 125. That is the info I needed. Thanks.

[Ryan]

Apparently I was thinking something else I guess (max temp my flash will go up too probably) so I looked it up and its 80c (176 degress), that sounds right with what everyone else is saying. I used some of those old M&R ones that company in my town has. Those really screw up your rotation on an all air machine when you don't have enough to balance out the carriage.

[Zelko-4-EVA]

we used to have honeycomb platens on the Zelkos (1996 vintage)...  they never stayed flat - 99 percent of our shirts are black and need to be flashed.

i have actually used an old honeycomb platen (minus the bracket) when i soldered the 1" copper air lines.  easy to wipe off, easy to move around, light enough to clamp to protect the torch from burning the wood.

[cvreeland]

Actually, the Blue Max was purchased new, probably in 92 or 93, and I'd be absolutely amazed if those platens are anything but stock. 

I could be mistaken--perhaps they are some other sort of sandwiched construction, but I'd say with some certainty that they aren't solid.

No, you're right. Now that I think about it, I got 4 of those with my Blue Max II that I bought new in '94. The selling point then, i think, was that they were lighter & would fatigue the operator less as he turned the carousel.