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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2013, 03:51:38 PM »
I purchase cartridges and ink for my 4880 from macroenter.com ... We are running all cartridges filled with black ink.

Running them dry will damage the print head (learned from experience $$). Do yourself a favor by not "turning off" print heads or running them dry.


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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2013, 03:58:59 PM »
I purchase cartridges and ink for my 4880 from macroenter.com ... We are running all cartridges filled with black ink.

Running them dry will damage the print head (learned from experience $$). Do yourself a favor by not "turning off" print heads or running them dry.

Hence why filling them with cleaning solution is recommended. I also heard that running one ink and the rest cleaning solution keeps the heat down and extends the over all life of the heads. Not sure if true but makes sense for those shops running massive amounts of film a day.
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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2013, 04:15:04 PM »
I got this method from 2 folks running this way every day, so I trust it. Like I said, I'll be setting ours up tomorrow. I get my black ink from inksupply.com, but I got the carts from inkjetcarts.com.  The ink is    http://www.inksupply.com/product-details.cfm?pn=D2-PT-K

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others run all 8 heads with the black, either way, you're still going to save a fortune on ink. Pierre mentioned that he finds the quality of the halftones and the line work is superior using one head. We use our 1400 this way now, and it is better than the 6 heads, IMHO.

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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2013, 04:20:05 PM »
So i would need this set of 8
http://store.inkjetcarts.us/epson-pro-4880-refillable-cartridge-set-of-8-p4645.aspx

and a liter of this?
http://store.inkjetcarts.us/screen-positive-black-hybrid-ink-p4487.aspx

...and i fill all 8 cartridges with black?


Call them, he is a super nice guy and knows his ink.  Yes, you run black in all heads and switch which head you use periodically, keeps all heads working correctly.  Epson inks cost me about $1200 to replace, this system costs me about $50 to refill.
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4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2013, 05:10:59 PM »
Try Filmsdirect or Cobra Ink Systems in North Carolina.

+1 for filmsdirect.
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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2013, 05:42:56 PM »
I got this method from 2 folks running this way every day, so I trust it. Like I said, I'll be setting ours up tomorrow. I get my black ink from inksupply.com, but I got the carts from inkjetcarts.com.  The ink is    http://www.inksupply.com/product-details.cfm?pn=D2-PT-K

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Steve, just so you know the ink you linked to is dye based, and the 4800's come stock as pigment based. I switched
the black in my 4000 without a hitch, but I've heard they can have issues if you don't flush between.

Either way, for us, dye based is the way to go. We go through a lot of ink and the price difference is remarkable.
From what I've seen, dye based is darker anyways.


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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2013, 05:50:49 PM »
This is what we have been using for the last 2 years. Couldn't be happier with the price or quality.

http://www.filmdirectonline.com/products/Multi-Black-Large-Format-Ink-Kit.html
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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #22 on: January 22, 2013, 07:02:11 PM »
We use filmdirect or Ink2Image. Both great.

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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2013, 03:35:07 PM »
I got this method from 2 folks running this way every day, so I trust it. Like I said, I'll be setting ours up tomorrow. I get my black ink from inksupply.com, but I got the carts from inkjetcarts.com.  The ink is    http://www.inksupply.com/product-details.cfm?pn=D2-PT-K

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Steve, just so you know the ink you linked to is dye based, and the 4800's come stock as pigment based. I switched
the black in my 4000 without a hitch, but I've heard they can have issues if you don't flush between.

Either way, for us, dye based is the way to go. We go through a lot of ink and the price difference is remarkable.
From what I've seen, dye based is darker anyways.


Dye based is the ink that AccuRIP recommended I think (it was a couple of years ago now) and it does a great job. I will be sure to give it a good flush, thanks for the tip.

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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2013, 03:39:17 PM »
FWIW I didn't flush my 4000 when switching to dyebase and had no problems. Probably just
another Epson scare tactic.

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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2013, 08:06:32 AM »
one more quick question...

what is the purpose of the clear carts?  Could I not just buy the bulk ink and inject it into the little 'ink hole' where they plug in with an ink syringe?  i noticed ryonet now sells their black max in bulk liter bottle...i emailed them but they are beating around the bush about it LOL obviously they want me to spend 800 but elude to the fact that i can infact do that if one had a resetter...

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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2013, 08:20:08 AM »
one more quick question...

what is the purpose of the clear carts?  Could I not just buy the bulk ink and inject it into the little 'ink hole' where they plug in with an ink syringe?  i noticed ryonet now sells their black max in bulk liter bottle...i emailed them but they are beating around the bush about it LOL obviously they want me to spend 800 but elude to the fact that i can infact do that if one had a resetter...

The clear solution goes in to the un used heads. It is there to keep the head from drying up, keeps it cool and also is printed during head cleans. If its all ink in those heads then every head prints the expensive ink during head cleans. Some still use all carts for ink many do not. When I talked to Caveman (I forget his real name) from Cadlink he told me the printer will not print any faster with one black ink or all. He also backed up what Pierre figured out, your crispness is better with one head instead of all black, something to do with the fact that having hundreds of nozzles in perfect alignment is impossible.
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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2013, 09:57:39 AM »
inksupply.com is what I use.  Gallon of ink for $100.  Got my clear tanks off ebay.  I think the reason to get the clear carts is to monitor ink levels more accurately especially with a chip resetter. Never tried printing from just one head, might give that a shot.  If it works better for detail I might pull the other carts and "reclaim" my black ink and fill with solution.

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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2013, 11:14:00 AM »
By the way, if you print from one head in AccuRIP, you will want to change the resolution perhaps. 1440 x 1440 makes a nice black, but takes a long time to print. 1440 x 720 is considerably faster, but you would need to increase the droplet size. Our 1400 went from a droplet size of 6 for all six heads printing, to a droplet size of 11 with one head printing. I'll be setting up our 4800 over the weekend, and will post my results. As for the clear cartridges, you can see how much ink is left, as opposed to the printer telling you how much ink you have left.

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Re: 4880 Ink, its time to replace, but with what?
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2013, 12:49:43 PM »
...not to steer this off too far from the original question, but for those of you that have the 4880 or 4900, what is the largest film size you can use in the paper tray? I have been trying to google this, but its not in any specs I can find.

...I also read that I could make this (or any printer) wireless, through use of an additional router. Anyone do this?
Thanks TSB gang!!

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