Just a Thank You is that asking too much!

[screenxpress]

I really like the idea of.....

If you're going to do something for free, why not print "Shirts provided by......."?

Then don't expect a Thank You..................but maybe some new business down the road.

That's my story....and I'm sticking to it.

[Gilligan]

really?  Gilligan and I agreed on something?  it must be 12-12-12

aahhahahdhhahahahahah

Holy crap... that's TWO things we agree on now... and not a minute too soon for me.

[jsheridan]

he didn't expect a gift in return, he expected a thank you. 

my point exactly!

He gave and expected something, anything, to validate his kindness. When they didn't acknowledge his 'gift' he let himself get upset or 'disappointed' about it. "How dare they! I gave them 600 bucks of free shiet and they didn't even say thank you.. ROAAARRRR!!!! "" HOW DARE THEY!! I'LL SHOW EM, I'LL POST ABOUT IT ON THE INTERWEBS WHERE OTHER PEEPS WILL AGREE WITH ME.. RARRRGGHH!!!  That alllowed him to shift the blame from himself onto the custy making them look like the bad guy. That blame being allowing his feelings or what he feels about the matter to get the better of him rather than just gain happiness from the gift knowing the smiles on the kids faces just made their day.

It's a classic nice guy victim puke filled with spin and blame shift..

Give from the heart with no expectation of anything in return, that is a true gift.

[Socalfmf]

John

I really don't think it is about expecting anything it is about how shitty our Nation is right now...I read daily about this and that...where is the respect of human nature to say a quick thank you here and there...or be polite and hold a door open for someone or to pull your pants up in public...

right now I see our nation as hurting and noone there to lead and expect us to treat each other with respect! 

but then again...lets keep it the way it is..

[Gilligan]

John

I really don't think it is about expecting anything it is about how shitty our Nation is right now...I read daily about this and that...where is the respect of human nature to say a quick thank you here and there...or be polite and hold a door open for someone or to pull your pants up in public...

right now I see our nation as hurting and noone there to lead and expect us to treat each other with respect! 

but then again...lets keep it the way it is..

Well, flip side of that Sam is when a leader does show respect to other's he's treated like he just surrendered the country by respecting their customs.   Again, can't win for losing it seems.

[inkman996]

When a president tries to ease the pressure of a poor economy and an economic crash he is accused of giving gifts. But not in a nice way.

[inkman996]

Besides what the hell does a president have to do with Social etiquette?

[jsheridan]

John

I really don't think it is about expecting anything it is about how shitty our Nation is right now...I read daily about this and that...where is the respect of human nature to say a quick thank you here and there...or be polite and hold a door open for someone or to pull your pants up in public...

right now I see our nation as hurting and noone there to lead and expect us to treat each other with respect! 

but then again...lets keep it the way it is..

You're absolutely right Sam.. things have gone to crap, in a hand basket and someone forgot the thank you note.
The only thing YOU can do, is be OK with it. Man up and just keep doing what YOU feel is the right thing to do and let everyone else do what it is they do and don't let it bother you. When you let it bother you, it takes up mental space that could be better used for something else.

[Gilligan]

On the flip side to that John is Brad, he said his neighbor gets pissed about someone not saying thank you and that has made him more conscious of saying thank you now.  So being pissed off and complaining has improved the world a tiny bit.

In college I vaguely remember a short story we were forced to read called "Why Complain", I don't remember the author unfortunately but it basically talked about how sometimes the simplest things could be correct if only someone would speak up and complain.  But if you don't say anything then it's possible everyone just assumes everyone else is ok with it and why should they be the one to speak up and complain.  One of their simple examples was the temperature on a bus ride.  Some people just assumed the AC was broken, some assumed it must have just been them that was hot.  Finally someone said something and they turned on the AC and everyone was relieved.

I'm not suggesting everyone whine all the time, but a legit complaint is completely respectable.

[mk162]

gilligan, we can no longer agree because it isn't 12-12-12....(but I actually agree with what you said 100%)

[Socalfmf]

What does the President have to do with IT?  everything!  he is the one who sits there and says Travon Martin is what my kid would look like...really a thug?  someone who gets kicked out of school on a regular basis?  that is what your son would look like...he is the one setting the tone..he is the one people look for in leadership as the leader of the free world...he is the LEADER not a follower...

[Gilligan]

Getting off topic but what about when he does Lead and shows proper etiquette when visiting foreign leaders and then gets blasted for it?

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

You know Gilligan, when you go off doin' all kind of whackadoodle stuff like AGREEING with "The Conservative Bunch" all you do is diffuse the ILL WILL you've been carefully crafting lo these many moons.

The problem here, as I see it, is with the leadership.  Mr Band Master or his lackeys didn't handle this wonderful gift properly.  It is an opportunity for him to learn something VERY important, and the kiddos.  Send the guy a link to the thread.

I used to be a High School Band Instructor, 15 years. 

And as a proud, card carrying member of theshirboard.com's "The Conservative Bunch" (insert more winky's here) I do hereby proclaim this thread as Required Reading for every giver of a gift, and also all recipients of gifts, forevermore, amen. (I feel sooo powerful)  Cause you are ALL right....at least in part.  I didn't read one post that didn't express at least a slice of how I feel about it, depending on how I hold my head.

These kids entered the world, just like us...knowing NOTHING about ANYTHING.  We've gotta teach them, and the collective "WE" absolutely suck as teachers nowadays, I guess....

WHAT A TEACHABLE MOMENT THIS IS!

[Gilligan]

I do what I can... but sometimes I "slip".

Let me try harder.

Sam can we at least agree that the Travon Martin comment was on par with Mr. Bush's trying to "sympathize" with the Katrina victims by talking about how his good buddy Trent Lott lost ONE of his houses in the storm as well.  ONE of his houses, while other people lost EVERYTHING they owned and their entire history, he's relating because his buddy lost ONE of his many multi-million dollar homes.  At least he could fake "common man" better than Romney.

[inkman996]

What does the President have to do with IT?  everything!  he is the one who sits there and says Travon Martin is what my kid would look like...really a thug?  someone who gets kicked out of school on a regular basis?  that is what your son would look like...he is the one setting the tone..he is the one people look for in leadership as the leader of the free world...he is the LEADER not a follower...

I am seriously rolling my eyes.

I dont look to my president to set the tone on how we act in society thats naive. He is an elected official that has much bigger fish to fry than to worry about how we say thank you. And seriously why would you stereotype Travon Martin because of the way he looked? My kid can grow up and have any look he wants if someone stereotypes him then they are douche. There is a difference between looking like something and actually being something, but you wouldn't understand that Sam since everyone is garbage in your eyes unless they fit your idealistic human being mold. Travon Martin was being harassed and he did exactly what I would have done, piss on any one that does not agree with it.