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Offline tonypep

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DC UB vs Plastisol
« on: December 06, 2012, 09:19:43 AM »
To be sure the plastisol print is a tic out of reg and we could have played around for an hour or so to get it better but a ten minute ink change to DC base and there you go. I just sent a broadcast e-mail to sales and art staff that DC UB is the rule now. After extensive testing this is the way to go for short run plastisols when we are not discharging direct with color. For us plastisol Ubs are over. Better, sharper, easier to use, soft hand,and........WAY CHEAPER INK COST!


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Re: DC UB vs Plastisol
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2012, 09:27:37 AM »
Neglected to mention this was a Next Level 60/40 blend. This works for the troublesome Royals, Purples, Kellys also.

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Re: DC UB vs Plastisol
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2012, 01:41:04 PM »
Neglected to mention this was a Next Level 60/40 blend. This works for the troublesome Royals, Purples, Kellys also.

Tony - I agree!  Using a discharge ub with plastisol over is an excellent method for producing great color and soft hand.  My question to you:  for the blended garment as well as the 100% cotton problem ground colors (kelly, purple, royal, etc) - are you using a neutral discharge base plate or a white discharge plate?  I ask because on some of the most problematic colors, my experience has been the resultant discharged color is like a charcoal color.  Would still be hard to get good coverage on.

Thanks!  PS - Gildan publishes a nice discharge rating guide for their shirts if anyone has not seen it.
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Re: DC UB vs Plastisol
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2012, 02:20:41 PM »
A few of the ink companies now offer a Brite Base etc. What it is is a hybrid of base (binder) and DC white in a specific ratiio. I prefer to make my own and control the ratio in house depending on the garment. I recommend that straight DC White should never be used as a UB to to curing, cracking, and adhesion. This is where many ink companies fell short early on in the game.

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Re: DC UB vs Plastisol
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2012, 02:09:37 AM »
To be sure the plastisol print is a tic out of reg and we could have played around for an hour or so to get it better but a ten minute ink change to DC base and there you go. I just sent a broadcast e-mail to sales and art staff that DC UB is the rule now. After extensive testing this is the way to go for short run plastisols when we are not discharging direct with color. For us plastisol Ubs are over. Better, sharper, easier to use, soft hand,and........WAY CHEAPER INK COST!
What mesh count do you use for the top plastisol colors?