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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2012, 08:50:58 AM »
Thanks JBlue, Thanks Darryl!  Got the room for it almost done, Insulated it all last night, doors and inner wall boardgoes up today. Gonna do some track lighting using LED light bulbs for a nice bright UV free room. Got the gigantic crate jacked up and sitting on furniture dolly's so we can move it around till it's ready to go in place, nice wood on that crate I already see some use out of that stuff  ;D
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #16 on: December 15, 2012, 06:19:07 AM »
UPDATES!!! WE'RE DIYING FOR UPDATES!!!!
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #17 on: December 15, 2012, 10:54:15 AM »
Hey Jamie. Well, updates are that our custom room/office for it and me is now done and lookin sweet, with the unit in it waiting on the tech. We should have the tech out here this week the 20th for full training and final install stuff. It's really got me itching man, can't wait. I had to come in this morning to get ahead for next week and lining up all these dam films for some sim process jobs, I'm tapping my foot on the ground looking back at the machine sayin, daaaaaam, I wouldn't be stressing over these dang line ups if that thing was running already  ;D :o. All in good time though, can't wait. One thing that happens to me from time to time, I'm sure you've seen it. On larger seps, the film may like to move "slightly" in the inkjet printers as it's being pulled through and can really be a bugger at grid line up, especially if it's something like halftones, or serious detail. Hopefully that will be one more factor to rule out. We got a new customer who is an artist who does paintings for Nat Geo, and he is verrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrry picky. I know this unit is going to help that along the way too. I'll give some updates later in the week when the tech is here and we are rockin out with it!!
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #18 on: December 15, 2012, 01:56:09 PM »
I am still wondering why you are having such a problem lining up films. Sounds like you are having a lot more trouble than normal.
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #19 on: December 15, 2012, 08:41:01 PM »
Whos having problems linning up films? I'm just saying it's a waist of time for me and our production mold if we can streamline the process goin direct to screen
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The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #20 on: December 15, 2012, 09:02:57 PM »
Thanks for the update. I would go insane waiting for the tech to install. I hear you about films. One thing I noticed is the amount of stretch or whatever changes at different parts of the film roll.
So for example if we print films for a job and find out later one of the colors is borked we can't just reprint the film as it won't reg with the earlier films.
We can't get a dts soon enough!
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #21 on: December 15, 2012, 09:06:23 PM »
I am finding on our 4800 with rip that if I print a set vertically and then later print a replacement horizontal they don't line up. So I will agree there. Print all the same way is only way I see to solve problem.

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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2012, 09:50:25 PM »
Saw it today 1 film out of 8 on a sim pro job was a lil goofy on yhe reg marks. Re printed thst sep wa s good prooved the possible slipage with films tracking on large prints. Jamie, I can't wait brother.
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2012, 07:35:36 AM »
If only it could keep up with our production requirements. Then that would be something.

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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2012, 07:37:16 AM »
No problem there Tony. We have one that will do 400 per 10 hr shift.
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #25 on: December 17, 2012, 08:35:45 AM »
Wow thats something. Whats the $$?

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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #26 on: December 17, 2012, 08:51:02 AM »
I saw this at SGIA. The thing is smoking fast! I almost wish my I-Jet would crap out on me so I could have a new I-Image.
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #27 on: December 17, 2012, 09:39:10 AM »
Saw it today 1 film out of 8 on a sim pro job was a lil goofy on yhe reg marks. Re printed thst sep wa s good prooved the possible slipage with films tracking on large prints. Jamie, I can't wait brother.


This can happen with any film output device.


The taller the image, the more opportunity or potential you have of it miss registered. What causes this?  A few things.


1, The math and finite capabilities of our devices. We can set something up at 12" wide and 16" tall and if you look at the film output, it's almost ever (if ever) 100% dead on 16".
It may be very "very" small in difference, but it is. For example, it may be 15.03125 tall. This difference even starts from your art programs and the math or algorithms used to plot out the image. It's either on or off a dot, (thin of matrix), Compound that with the same effects from the output device, and it could be off as much as a 32th of an inch.


2, I will lump several factors into this. They all effect it the same way.
  • Temperature
  • Temperature of device
  • Humidity
  • time of day of output.

If you start in the AM printing films in a cold room, and you have a 6-10 color print that takes 15-30 minutes to print films, your last one or two can be out of register due to the changes on the above.


If you've been running films all day long and your room has been in a controlled temperature all day, the device may be at a settling point where all are accurate and consistent.


The fewer colors you have, the more accurate your registration will be. THe longer and more constant you run your films, the more consistent they will be.


I would expect this to be true for all devices. Thermals are notorious for being out of register for these reasons.

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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #28 on: December 17, 2012, 09:59:02 AM »
Thanks for the elaboration Dan, but come the end of this week, we will no longer have to deal with film , I can't wait for this bad a$$ I-Image to be rocking out our screens. Install will be like an early Christmas present!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The I-Image experience begins!!!!
« Reply #29 on: December 17, 2012, 10:13:01 AM »
Happy for ya screen, but I,m like Dan all machines have a hicups some times, some where down the line....hopefully your line will be very long.

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