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Quote from: volker on September 23, 2013, 03:11:46 PMQuote from: BaumanB on September 23, 2013, 02:18:34 PMQuote from: blue moon on September 23, 2013, 02:07:40 PMQuote from: ScreenFoo on September 23, 2013, 01:56:13 PMIIRC, BaumanB mentioned a couple of DLE units pretty near the beginning, along with ballpark prices which seemingly ended that tangent. The units I've heard of in the past sounded rather complex--does that use a laser and mirror system for exposure?Very cool video, thanks for posting it. there was one at SGIA couple of years back. If I remember correctly, it was $380K.so, yes, out of price range for most if not all of us . . .pierreAt last FESPA in London there was DLE-Eco unit available at $130k. The one in video was roughly $250k+ the last time I checked.@baumanb: the dle-eco did not work properly in my tests, what was a pitty because the company making them is just half an hour driving far from our shop. on the photo you have signtronic on the left and the much cheaper dle-eco on the right side.by the way: did you sell me your t-shirt folding machine about two years ago???@244 it is the question what you expect from a cts. so if you try to compare an ink system to an imagesetter or a dle sytem i have to say that the quality can not compare. in ink sprayer is far away from the quality you get from a dle. a ink system needs at least minimum one worker being busy all the time.a dot sprayed by an ink system has 30% of the outer dot not beeing opaque, so a dot easily can gain or loose around 30& or much more. if you want to prints seps in a perfect quality this is a knock out! even between an "old" imagesetter i had big differences between agfa and heidelberg when compared the dots with a table microscope. so if you have a smaller shop or need screen with a accuracy that is less important an ink sprayer is a nice choice.@blue moon. in my shop i have an roi after less that three years. I would strongly suggest you have someone stop in our booth with a high powered microscope and check out our dots while we are doing a complete screen every 45 seconds including exposure. Things have the tendency to change in technology and maybe what you looked at before was older technology. Just a FYI.
Quote from: BaumanB on September 23, 2013, 02:18:34 PMQuote from: blue moon on September 23, 2013, 02:07:40 PMQuote from: ScreenFoo on September 23, 2013, 01:56:13 PMIIRC, BaumanB mentioned a couple of DLE units pretty near the beginning, along with ballpark prices which seemingly ended that tangent. The units I've heard of in the past sounded rather complex--does that use a laser and mirror system for exposure?Very cool video, thanks for posting it. there was one at SGIA couple of years back. If I remember correctly, it was $380K.so, yes, out of price range for most if not all of us . . .pierreAt last FESPA in London there was DLE-Eco unit available at $130k. The one in video was roughly $250k+ the last time I checked.@baumanb: the dle-eco did not work properly in my tests, what was a pitty because the company making them is just half an hour driving far from our shop. on the photo you have signtronic on the left and the much cheaper dle-eco on the right side.by the way: did you sell me your t-shirt folding machine about two years ago???@244 it is the question what you expect from a cts. so if you try to compare an ink system to an imagesetter or a dle sytem i have to say that the quality can not compare. in ink sprayer is far away from the quality you get from a dle. a ink system needs at least minimum one worker being busy all the time.a dot sprayed by an ink system has 30% of the outer dot not beeing opaque, so a dot easily can gain or loose around 30& or much more. if you want to prints seps in a perfect quality this is a knock out! even between an "old" imagesetter i had big differences between agfa and heidelberg when compared the dots with a table microscope. so if you have a smaller shop or need screen with a accuracy that is less important an ink sprayer is a nice choice.@blue moon. in my shop i have an roi after less that three years.
Quote from: blue moon on September 23, 2013, 02:07:40 PMQuote from: ScreenFoo on September 23, 2013, 01:56:13 PMIIRC, BaumanB mentioned a couple of DLE units pretty near the beginning, along with ballpark prices which seemingly ended that tangent. The units I've heard of in the past sounded rather complex--does that use a laser and mirror system for exposure?Very cool video, thanks for posting it. there was one at SGIA couple of years back. If I remember correctly, it was $380K.so, yes, out of price range for most if not all of us . . .pierreAt last FESPA in London there was DLE-Eco unit available at $130k. The one in video was roughly $250k+ the last time I checked.
Quote from: ScreenFoo on September 23, 2013, 01:56:13 PMIIRC, BaumanB mentioned a couple of DLE units pretty near the beginning, along with ballpark prices which seemingly ended that tangent. The units I've heard of in the past sounded rather complex--does that use a laser and mirror system for exposure?Very cool video, thanks for posting it. there was one at SGIA couple of years back. If I remember correctly, it was $380K.so, yes, out of price range for most if not all of us . . .pierre
IIRC, BaumanB mentioned a couple of DLE units pretty near the beginning, along with ballpark prices which seemingly ended that tangent. The units I've heard of in the past sounded rather complex--does that use a laser and mirror system for exposure?Very cool video, thanks for posting it.
@Danny How much does the Lawson DTS cost?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I really love seeing videos like this. That screen rack set up, although similar to ours, is much better, and such a good shop hack!
If we had a section for specific threads with videos of each shops part of that process linked in some kind of moderated first post with discussion below that would be amazing. I would post a video of a lot of the way I do things, as much to show a smaller sized shop for newer printers as to get feedback from the real pros on how things could be improved.