How I feel trying to use dischage and understand it

[inkman996]

Rouge=Shelly
Rogue=Brandt
Sorry couldn't resist

Red ginger locks.

BTW these guys would have a stroke if they seen Shelly coating and carrying unexposed screens in open light.  I think of them every time when she does it.  We break all the rules!

Brandt remember I did my own little experiment by coating screens in full flouro light for one whole gallon and all my screens still exposed perfectly, even posted pics of the exposed calculators and yet no one once even acknowledged my experiment, is it because it goes against what the big time experts say? Dunno but just like you I never had flouro light corrupt any of my screens ever.

[GraphicDisorder]

Believe me we do also. A lot of what I do I would never recommend to anyone else.
We just know how to make old school meets new school work. Dave (Bimridder) never got the chance to come by last weekend but when he's back in town he'll get the picture. And Rick has threatened to come by; I would enjoy that as well.
In the end, we all do what we believe works best for us. And when unsure come here for (usually) sound advice.

I agree!

Brandt remember I did my own little experiment by coating screens in full flouro light for one whole gallon and all my screens still exposed perfectly, even posted pics of the exposed calculators and yet no one once even acknowledged my experiment, is it because it goes against what the big time experts say? Dunno but just like you I never had flouro light corrupt any of my screens ever.

I do remember that and I thought that was very odd it was "dismissed" or ignored.

[tonypep]

Classic case of letting the manufacturer/supplier/distributor giving advice that isn't necessarily sound. I had two discussions with industry supply veterans who were astounded to hear what we do with discharge. Talk about breaking the rules! They were going around telling customers to stay away from halftones and high mesh

[inkman996]

I remember Alan Howe telling me how he was shocked to see shops using a pressure washer to resolve their screens, he was always previously led to believe that is not the right way yet out on the road opened his eyes to how things really can be done.

[GraphicDisorder]

Doing everything like everyone else will just land you where everyone else is........ aim higher...

[Gilligan]

Doing everything like everyone else will just land you where everyone else is........ aim higher...

That makes sense when you are taking it to the next level, not being more careless.


*disclaimer* we coat in full fluorescents all day.

[GraphicDisorder]

Doing everything like everyone else will just land you where everyone else is........ aim higher...

That makes sense when you are taking it to the next level, not being more careless.


*disclaimer* we coat in full fluorescents all day.

Who's being careless? 

Oh and let me guess, I am careless for not having a scale, to use in a process we aren't offering.  Right? 

[Mr Tees!!]

...I may just send Brandt my extra scale JUST so I don't hafta read about this anymore...

[GraphicDisorder]

...I may just send Brandt my extra scale JUST so I don't hafta read about this anymore...

Send it, I will do a burn out on it in my truck. 

[tonypep]

I don't care who you are thats funny!

[Gilligan]

Doing everything like everyone else will just land you where everyone else is........ aim higher...

That makes sense when you are taking it to the next level, not being more careless.


*disclaimer* we coat in full fluorescents all day.

Who's being careless? 

Oh and let me guess, I am careless for not having a scale, to use in a process we aren't offering.  Right?

I'm talking about caring screens in open light... you say you carry them under shop lights, not just flouros.  Now... is this .0001% UV exposure compared to the full UV, is it .1% uv compared to full UV needed to expose a screen, no one has figured this out yet.  But the facts are it is MORE UV than someone that is doing it in a dark room and not exposing it to "any" UV.  So in that regard you are by the book being more careless.

Which my point is doing things differently isn't going to necessarily make you better, especially if different isn't better.  In this particular case, it isn't.

Again, I move my screens around in shop fluorescents all the time, so I am not suggesting (in fact I was one of the guys like you and Mike saying I doubt it makes "enough" difference).

[Nick Bane]

Rouge=Shelly
Rogue=Brandt
Sorry couldn't resist

Red ginger locks.

BTW these guys would have a stroke if they seen Shelly coating and carrying unexposed screens in open light.  I think of them every time when she does it.  We break all the rules!

Brandt remember I did my own little experiment by coating screens in full flouro light for one whole gallon and all my screens still exposed perfectly, even posted pics of the exposed calculators and yet no one once even acknowledged my experiment, is it because it goes against what the big time experts say? Dunno but just like you I never had flouro light corrupt any of my screens ever.

guess i should add, screens are coated, handled and burned in the open shop under full flouro lights, never had an issue.  like most others, its just what works for us and how we do things, if it were causing problems, it would be changed asap.

[Mr Tees!!]

...I may just send Brandt my extra scale JUST so I don't hafta read about this anymore...

Send it, I will do a burn out on it in my truck. 

...Haha, okay, but at least check the readout beforehand. You'll be the only guy that knows his truck's weight down to a tenth of a gram....

[ebscreen]

Fluorescent lights don't scare me, never have. We have skylights though, and I can guarantee that even filtered sunlight
will expose screens in a matter of seconds. (photopolymer)

For those of you that refuse to use a scale, how are you matching Pantones? And if you do it by eye, how
do you repeat it?

[GraphicDisorder]

Doing everything like everyone else will just land you where everyone else is........ aim higher...

That makes sense when you are taking it to the next level, not being more careless.


*disclaimer* we coat in full fluorescents all day.

Who's being careless? 

Oh and let me guess, I am careless for not having a scale, to use in a process we aren't offering.  Right?

I'm talking about caring screens in open light... you say you carry them under shop lights, not just flouros.  Now... is this .0001% UV exposure compared to the full UV, is it .1% uv compared to full UV needed to expose a screen, no one has figured this out yet.  But the facts are it is MORE UV than someone that is doing it in a dark room and not exposing it to "any" UV.  So in that regard you are by the book being more careless.

Which my point is doing things differently isn't going to necessarily make you better, especially if different isn't better.  In this particular case, it isn't.

Again, I move my screens around in shop fluorescents all the time, so I am not suggesting (in fact I was one of the guys like you and Mike saying I doubt it makes "enough" difference).

We move ours under our warehouse lights even, metal-halide.  Heck we coat em out there too.  Then we put them in a drying cabinet out there, then carrying them again through there to our wash out room.  It's  bad ass!

Yet to see a difference and we've coated screens in dark, to just under florescent only, to metal-halide.  I will continue to be as careless as possible until I see a result that makes me back up a step.