Is Bill Hood banned from this site?

[JBLUE]

Seems to me, the problem with the OLD (TSPMB) board wasn't "a person who won't be named"..people could be banned, or ignored. If they were banned so be it. The problem arose when he CONTROLED it and it became his and his ways, EVERYONE else was banned. There was no Control of the forum. There is now. NO BANS, or Exclutions unless warranted. The control of the forum is up to the "Head Guys"...they do their job, everything is smooth.          Banning can be appropriate, but a sin should be commited..My 2 cents

Well said, Bill.

I'm against any and all censorship, period. I don't even like it when it auto-censors dirty words. I put up with it in these private forums, because it's ultimately up to the owners what the forum should be about, not me... but frankly I find the idea that someone can decide what I should see and hear far more offensive than anything anyone can post. (Even SicGrafix)!

Are-Double-ewe-Bee (stop pussyfooting and just let us SAY it... I can't even type it without your stupid auto-correct...) was damaging to TSPMB. More than just a troll, he was almost as bad as an all-out hacker. I totally understand not letting him here just because of that. But now someone's started a LIST of people not allowed to post? In the words of Han Solo, "I have a bad feeling about this."

Not
Good

 I feel the same way and could not agree more. Great post!!!!!!!

[Command-Z]

It's always good to know both sides of the story, and I was lucky enough to get that today. I have to say, there may be more facts to the matter than I was privy to. I found out that there may be reasons that this decision may be a good one for the admins of this board, even if it may not appear to be a good one for the users.

So while I still think punishment before a crime is committed maybe seems a little harsh, I think if we really want this board to succeed, we should  give the admins the benefit of the doubt on this one. From experience they know it may be more hassle than just "drama" that they would face. And that's all I'm going to say about that.

On censorship... we need to remember that this is a privately-owned board, there's no reasonable expectation of Constitutional rights, so we have to put up with certain rules if we are to remain a civilized community. If we don't like it, we can always go. I intend to stay.

[BBB]

Mutual admiration society..I agree with Command Z...It is a privately owned site...So you follow the rules.

I dont think I want to be a member of a private site, that would accept me...Lololol

[Fresh Baked Printing]

99 out of 100 times, this place gives me the answers and information I'm looking for. This board is just fine. If it ain't broke...

[Northland]

I say we invite Bill and get on with life.

[killergraphics]

It's always good to know both sides of the story, and I was lucky enough to get that today. I have to say, there may be more facts to the matter than I was privy to. I found out that there may be reasons that this decision may be a good one for the admins of this board, even if it may not appear to be a good one for the users.

Now there are two forums that takes care of things in the background for the good of its members.

Many many things are not always as they seem.

Thats all that has to be said to me.

Thank You

[Fresh Baked Printing]

I say we invite Bill and get on with life.

+1

[bimmridder]

I mentioned this to someone privately earlier, and it's something I have to pull out once in a while with my own employees. Plain and simple, this is not a democracy. we all have our opinions, but only a few make the final choice, and it's theirs to make.

[tonypep]

Frog send me a PM if you like and we can discuss.
tp

[Shanarchy]

There was one thread on the M&R boards where a guy, Scrimshaw I think
asked Bill if he could see a sample of this famed one-hit white, to see what
he was aiming for, and what was really possible. Bill tore him a new one just
for asking. That's bullshit. You don't purport something to the Nth degree and
then criticize when asked for proof.

Yes, that was me.

In a nut shell I asked Bill if I could see a sample of the one hit white he so often spoke of. As I said then, many different people have a different opinion of what acceptable white coverage is. I believe he told me I would have to pay for shipping. I said no problem. I did say that I wanted to see a sample of a decent size print as opposed to small text. Something to show a normal area of print coverage. It could have been a 3"x3" square on a t shirt rag for all I cared. I was basically ridiculed for asking for a "custom printed one off shirt". Told that I refuse to do things the right way in my operation along with a few other insults. I was even PM'ed by him to respond back to the thread when I stopped posting. I was sincerely interesting in buying and trying some of his ink. Whatever, water under the bridge. I'm sure neither of us lost any sleep over it.

That said, I personally do not think very highly of him. However, I think he does have a great deal of knowledge. I also think he should be allowed to post here until he shows that he is ruffling peoples feathers and/or bringing down the integrity of this forum.

Just my thoughts.

[Prōdigium]

The only two cents I will offer on this subject,
I was PM messaged on the subject and asked for my opinion. (I will NOT reply to this post.)

Bill is an industry veteran, has much more experience and know how than myself..I am not ashamed to admit it. However after a long period of time dealing with him on my previous forum project that was a BETA for my upcoming network...we had to many instances where matters of OPINION became "personal". This was an issue not only for me , but MANY of my boards members. Ultimately MANY of the other industry professionals I was trying to court to my site rejected my "open format" as they clearly objected to his presence. While I allowed him to stay , they left and so in essence my forum members lost out on the support that these professionals could of offered. I admit that it was a mistake, will not be repeated.

In the end it was my forum members who asked me to ban him. There were many reasons , but mostly it was a simple matter of him chastising others , while at the same time claiming to be the victim of abuse. When I made attempts to make it clear that the drama was not wanted, and needed to stop I was given the riot act in retaliation, sent email rants that required hours to read, and even threatened me with a lawsuit....Needless to say , that was the last straw and I made is ban PERMANENT! for ANY future sites that are in the works. I gave him the benefit of the doubt when others asked me to keep him away. I stated to those people that until I have a reason, I host an open format where all are welcomed. He burned his own bridge, not just on my site...but several others including the old forums. So there is a LONG history here. 

Now I have my personal opinions about his ban here, but this is not my site..I am a guest of Andy's here. But I for one respect his choice on this matter, and will clearly state that if this decision is reversed, much like the professionals that chose to leave my last forum....I too will make my presence here less noticeable. Much like some others in this industry (un-named but well known) there is simply no place that they can be made welcome without it destroying the quality of the forum. Healthy debate is one thing, I love a good thread that offers substance and stays on the topic..but some people like him refuse to honor that concept...which again is too bad, because as I opened this comment with ....he has allot experience to offer.....That is my 2-cents worth, and I do not apologize for my opinion.

[Shanarchy]

While I allowed him to stay , they left and so in essence my forum members lost out on the support that these professionals could of offered.

I do have to admit that that was the very reason I never really posted or read the M&R board.

[Frog]

I am a guest of Andy's here.

As I said in your introduction thread, not of Andy's but of Andy's and his two partners, Pierre, and Dan.
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