Author Topic: My first discharge underbase WOW  (Read 3775 times)

Offline Screened Gear

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2580
My first discharge underbase WOW
« on: September 28, 2012, 06:09:26 PM »
So I finally did a discharge underbase. They were black gildan 2000’s so I knew they would discharge well. I did 80 base and 20 white with 6 percent activator. I did two passes of the discharge and then printed 3 colors on top with no flash. I was a little worried about printing these. They came out great. I haven’t washed them yet to test but I am a little scared about the outcome. I printed the plastisol on top really thin so I am not sure if they will wash well. The colors were also based back with softhand base.


Offline Nation03

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1259
  • The Dude abides.
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 06:17:22 PM »
Looks awesome. What mesh counts did you use?

Offline Dottonedan

  • Administrator
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5907
  • Email me at art@designsbydottone.com
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 06:36:13 PM »
Looks great!  Except one thing,  It's got a little weave pattern in your garment. They will deduct points for that for sure.  :)   Kidding of course.
Artist & high end separator, Owner of The Vinyl Hub, Owner of Dot-Tone-Designs, Past M&R Digital tech installer for I-Image machines. Over 35 yrs in the apparel industry. e-mail art@designsbydottone.com

Offline Screened Gear

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2580
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2012, 07:00:11 PM »
Looks awesome. What mesh counts did you use?


They were all 156. Printed the top color hard to make sure the color covered the discharge in the weave.

Offline Dottonedan

  • Administrator
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5907
  • Email me at art@designsbydottone.com
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2012, 07:07:32 PM »
Has anyone tried a 230 using that discharge base and hitting it twice with good results?  I need to get this done via high mesh.
Artist & high end separator, Owner of The Vinyl Hub, Owner of Dot-Tone-Designs, Past M&R Digital tech installer for I-Image machines. Over 35 yrs in the apparel industry. e-mail art@designsbydottone.com

Offline jasonl

  • !!!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 582
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2012, 07:53:27 PM »
Has anyone tried a 230 using that discharge base and hitting it twice with good results?  I need to get this done via high mesh.

I have and it worked GREAT!
"We Make Blank Shirts Look Awesome!"

Offline JBLUE

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2036
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2012, 08:54:30 PM »
I do it all the time. 230 base and the rest 230's as well. Works great.
www.inkwerksspd.com

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid...... Ben Franklin

Offline GraphicDisorder

  • !!!
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 5872
  • Bottom Feeder
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2012, 09:03:56 PM »
Looks great!  I really gotta try that some day.
Brandt | Graphic Disorder | www.GraphicDisorder.com
@GraphicDisorder - Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | Youtube

Offline Rockers

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2074
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2012, 09:10:02 PM »
Has anyone tried a 230 using that discharge base and hitting it twice with good results?  I need to get this done via high mesh.
Will do it today, using the artwork you have separated for us.

Offline Dottonedan

  • Administrator
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5907
  • Email me at art@designsbydottone.com
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2012, 10:29:07 AM »
Glad to here it.   I have had good success with 230 and one hit ( with solid art).  A double hit would be even better I assume.  I neglected to point out that I am specifically referring to Halftone use when I asked about 230's and discharge underbase.   Anyone satisfied with that 2nd hit ( with halftones in it on a 230 mesh or even higher?   Dot gain would be an issue.
Artist & high end separator, Owner of The Vinyl Hub, Owner of Dot-Tone-Designs, Past M&R Digital tech installer for I-Image machines. Over 35 yrs in the apparel industry. e-mail art@designsbydottone.com

Offline screenxpress

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2434
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2012, 10:34:20 AM »
Sweet!.

What brand discharge and top inks?

And what emulsion?
Anything important is never left to the vote of the people. We only get to vote on some man; we never get to vote on what he is to do.  Will Rogers

Offline GraphicDisorder

  • !!!
  • Ludicrous Speed Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 5872
  • Bottom Feeder
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2012, 10:40:31 AM »
Sweet!.

What brand discharge and top inks?

And what emulsion?

I am with this guy, please tell.  I really need to throw some money at learning this stuff. 
Brandt | Graphic Disorder | www.GraphicDisorder.com
@GraphicDisorder - Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | Youtube

Offline Screened Gear

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2580
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2012, 11:32:29 AM »
Sweet!.

What brand discharge and top inks?

And what emulsion?

This job was for 50 black gildans. It wasn't set up for waterbase discharge. At the last minute I decided to do the DC underbase. I use aquasol HV emulsion normally so I just used some CCI hardener on the screen. Aquasol HV could handle 50 shirts with out hardener but better safe  then sorry. The colors was just my normal plastisol inks. They are union ultrasoft or maxopake based down. The underbase was cci base and white with 6 percent activator.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2012, 11:45:04 AM by Screened Gear »

Offline screenxpress

  • !!!
  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2434
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2012, 06:28:18 PM »
You sure you used Union Ultrasoft on Discharge????????

I've been told by Joe Catazone (Union Inks) you cannot and one of my efforts using Ultrasoft was atrocious. 

Maxopake, yes.  Just askin.
« Last Edit: September 29, 2012, 06:31:46 PM by screenxpress »
Anything important is never left to the vote of the people. We only get to vote on some man; we never get to vote on what he is to do.  Will Rogers

Offline Screened Gear

  • Gonzo Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2580
Re: My first discharge underbase WOW
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2012, 07:20:04 PM »
You sure you used Union Ultrasoft on Discharge????????

I've been told by Joe Catazone (Union Inks) you cannot and one of my efforts using Ultrasoft was atrocious. 

Maxopake, yes.  Just askin.

That's interesting. The teal and blue is ultrasoft and the yellow was a maxopake. I did the wash test about an hour ago and they look great. I did base the inks back with softhand. Not sure why union would say they don't work. Maybe its just some colors. I have heard some union reds will change to orange when used with plasticharge. Maybe a union guy can chime in on why it shouldn't of worked.