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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #75 on: August 22, 2012, 12:44:07 PM »
Please refrain from name calling and loud brash behavior. Be sure not to make accusations and just state your opinions, experiences or facts and move on.  If you don't know (for sure) about something, hold back on posting before reacting.


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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #76 on: August 22, 2012, 12:44:18 PM »

I have used Brad's products and have met him in person and he is one of the good guys.  A standup, caring guy.  When I order online I never send credit card info without the page being secure, Brad uses PayPal for this.  The only information he asks for on his site is the same information anybody can get by looking your name up in the phone book, or having your business card in their hand.  Hardly putting you in danger of identity theft.  Not trying to start a fire storm or look for an argument, but I think we need to take care to look into the situation in full before we make accusations that can damage the hard earned respect of someone's  business.  I will be using Maverick Graphic for supplies in the future without hesitation.

Eric


couldn't have said it better myself.  . .if "they" really want your info, "they" can get it.  . and now back to me making money.

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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #77 on: August 22, 2012, 12:55:37 PM »
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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #78 on: August 22, 2012, 01:07:59 PM »
What ever dude, your track record of negative posting on multiple boards speaks for it's self. Have a good one, I'm done with the childish crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have a business to run and employees to tend to, this 5th grade back and forth stuff is ridiculous!

My track record of telling the truth about one douche bag basically is how you judge me?  That's interesting since you are on a board that embraces nearly exactly what I stood up against.  LOL. 

As if someone is FORCING you to get involved in the back and forth.  It takes 2 people to do that, so you are no more innocent than me.  Seems like you are reaching, IMO you are probably just upset you made a wild statement about a unbeatable price that was beat already and I called you on it.    A lot of us have a business to run and employees to tend to.....  myself included. 
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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #79 on: August 22, 2012, 01:24:35 PM »
employees don't need tending to, it's called babysitting. ;)

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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #80 on: August 22, 2012, 01:33:57 PM »

I have used Brad's products and have met him in person and he is one of the good guys.  A standup, caring guy.  When I order online I never send credit card info without the page being secure, Brad uses PayPal for this.  The only information he asks for on his site is the same information anybody can get by looking your name up in the phone book, or having your business card in their hand.  Hardly putting you in danger of identity theft.  Not trying to start a fire storm or look for an argument, but I think we need to take care to look into the situation in full before we make accusations that can damage the hard earned respect of someone's  business.  I will be using Maverick Graphic for supplies in the future without hesitation.

Eric


couldn't have said it better myself.  . .if "they" really want your info, "they" can get it.  . and now back to me making money.

And I have ordered from you Homer through your site...you have a security certificate on your site  8)

I agree to an extent that the basic information is readily visible on my business card, but if there were millions of spammers, scammers and weiner pill companies in my shop (like there are sniffing the airwaves of the internetzz) I wouldn't be handing them all business cards and saying, "call me!".

Apologies to Maverick and to those who were offended by my post.  I was getting ready to order film today and thought of this thread, followed the two provided links, got mad because there were both insecure, and posted.

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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #81 on: August 22, 2012, 01:42:06 PM »
Actually, that would make a great post in the business section.

How to make a secure e-commerce store. What to look out for.


Those post's here about security, would be valuable in that post.
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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #82 on: August 22, 2012, 01:55:51 PM »
Actually, that would make a great post in the business section.

How to make a secure e-commerce store. What to look out for.


Those post's here about security, would be valuable in that post.

Fully agree with that!

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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #83 on: August 22, 2012, 02:19:05 PM »
Let's be completely honest... there is almost NO ONE "sniffing" the internet for information.

There are TARGETED situations from time to time... but the vast amounts of 1's and 0's coming over the wire are just ridiculous to think that someone is catching information off of that, that is of any value.

It would be worse than suggesting that you go out and target those sub 12 pcs customers for your business.  If spammers want information there are SOOOO many better ways to get that information than by sniffing an unencrypted website that has a form on it that you put your phone number and email on.

This is why places like DS and such take email addresses typed and convert them to images... so they can't be harvested.  This is why people put 55 FIVE - Sixtynine 50 as phone numbers on craigslist.  Because THAT is a method that spammers are using to harvest information.   Something that is in PLAIN TEXT on a site formatted to LOOK like a phone number.

Example.

"This is what that same number looks like in binary:
555-6950"

is represented in binary here:

"01010100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110111 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110011 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01101110 01110101 01101101 01100010 01100101 01110010 00100000 01101100 01101111 01101111 01101011 01110011 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00111010 00100000 00110101 00110101 00110101 00101101 00110110 00111001 00110101 00110000 00101110"

Did you spot the phone number? ;)

Vs a webcrawling script that grabs every page from a site and parses it for 7 or 10 digits back to back that might possibly be spaced out 3,3 and 4 or with hyphens or with periods.  I could write a script in 5 minutes to parse that out of a page.  VS sniffing gazillions of 1's and 0's and converting ALL of them to ASCII text and THEN parsing ALL of that data for that same information.  Just not worth it for the spammer.

I could go door to door looking for a fresh Mango but it would be a WHOLE lot faster and easier just to go to the produce store around the corner. ;)

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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #84 on: August 22, 2012, 02:50:12 PM »
Let's be completely honest... there is almost NO ONE "sniffing" the internet for information.

There are TARGETED situations from time to time... but the vast amounts of 1's and 0's coming over the wire are just ridiculous to think that someone is catching information off of that, that is of any value.

It would be worse than suggesting that you go out and target those sub 12 pcs customers for your business.  If spammers want information there are SOOOO many better ways to get that information than by sniffing an unencrypted website that has a form on it that you put your phone number and email on.

This is why places like DS and such take email addresses typed and convert them to images... so they can't be harvested.  This is why people put 55 FIVE - Sixtynine 50 as phone numbers on craigslist.  Because THAT is a method that spammers are using to harvest information.   Something that is in PLAIN TEXT on a site formatted to LOOK like a phone number.

Example.

"This is what that same number looks like in binary:
555-6950"

is represented in binary here:

"01010100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110111 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110100 01101000 01100001 01110100 00100000 01110011 01100001 01101101 01100101 00100000 01101110 01110101 01101101 01100010 01100101 01110010 00100000 01101100 01101111 01101111 01101011 01110011 00100000 01101100 01101001 01101011 01100101 00100000 01101001 01101110 00100000 01100010 01101001 01101110 01100001 01110010 01111001 00111010 00100000 00110101 00110101 00110101 00101101 00110110 00111001 00110101 00110000 00101110"

Did you spot the phone number? ;)

Vs a webcrawling script that grabs every page from a site and parses it for 7 or 10 digits back to back that might possibly be spaced out 3,3 and 4 or with hyphens or with periods.  I could write a script in 5 minutes to parse that out of a page.  VS sniffing gazillions of 1's and 0's and converting ALL of them to ASCII text and THEN parsing ALL of that data for that same information.  Just not worth it for the spammer.

I could go door to door looking for a fresh Mango but it would be a WHOLE lot faster and easier just to go to the produce store around the corner. ;)

Also very true. 
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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #85 on: August 22, 2012, 06:05:32 PM »
Damn, wtf did I miss today?  I really don't like having to print 3K shirts every day, I can't keep up with my forum drama!!!  And my F'ing back hurts.  Got a new girl starting in the morning and a guy coming back from vacation so I'll be seeing y'all a s s holes tomorrow.
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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #86 on: August 22, 2012, 07:24:29 PM »


Ha that`s a good one and spot on as well.

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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #87 on: August 22, 2012, 07:33:31 PM »
Anyway, I have ordered now from filmdirectonline.com. Good fast service, shipping abroad too and prices are not too bad either, especially if you consider I would still pay more if I would buy a comparable japanese product. Even with the shipping of US$150 included.
Cheers Bryan.

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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #88 on: August 22, 2012, 08:54:14 PM »
Anyway, I have ordered now from filmdirectonline.com. Good fast service, shipping abroad too and prices are not too bad either, especially if you consider I would still pay more if I would buy a comparable japanese product. Even with the shipping of US$150 included.
Cheers Bryan.

Bryan is a stand up guy with good product.  Great choice.

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Re: Ryont inkjet films
« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2012, 01:31:36 PM »
This thread has been interesting to say the least, but I do appreciate those who pointed out a possible flaw in our website. It is still my belief that my site is secure with Paypal, and financial information is never in jeapordy. That being said, I do not know everything and I will speak to my web guy to see if additional security is needed. When someone uses a credit card, the information is not trasmitted over our site, and is never stored. We have never received a complaint about stolen information.

I'm thankful to all those who posted positive comments about Maverick Graphic Supply, as they are why we are in business. I have been in contact with some who had issues with our website, and we are all on the same page. I'm hopeful that all of us on these boards can work together as one, as it is tough out there. Also, please remember we carry a complete line of inkjet films. Some of our products are priced higher than others, and discounts are also applied. The price listed on the website is not necessarily the price a person pays. TSB members get a special discount by entering a code. I know film is a commodity, but it is impossible to always have the best price. Shorter delivery times, free freight, and other things mean a lot to poeple. I do try to meet as many of you in person as possible, and personal contact goe sa long way.

I'm sure if you put all of us in the same room and we didn't know anything about anyone, we would all get along. I hope everyone has a great weekend, and I hope to work with all of you in the future.
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