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Offline Gabe

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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2012, 10:00:47 AM »
second option did flatten the gradient,
but when importing in to Draw it crash it
no problemo with the first one
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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2012, 10:06:30 AM »
CorelDraw seldom plays nicely with Illy's "gradients" for me.
Clients have often sent files like this composed of hundreds of slivers making up the fade.

So. bottom line sounds like Jason's curved fill is do-able in Illy, but not in CorelDRAW
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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2012, 10:11:32 AM »
I explained how to do it in Corel.
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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2012, 11:09:35 AM »
Yeah, I'm playing with that, and the fill is great, but I would need some real practice to get manipulate the envelope accurately to get the letters in the exact same position as I get with my "Fit Text to Path " option.

Jason is probably a little sharper than me so it may work great for him sooner.
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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2012, 12:14:53 PM »
Mikes way of doing it works in Corel, it just looks funky on screen.

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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2012, 12:17:20 PM »
I tried it as well, and like I said, the fill does exactly as advertised, I just have trouble manipulating the envelope easily and accurately. Jason should do fine.
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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2012, 12:20:19 PM »
Yea it does look funky on screen because the raster gradient is turned into thousands of filled objects, it still prints out fine.
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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2012, 12:22:28 PM »
Another way of it doing it while still having full text and text to path control is to use power clips, it would be a major PITA because you would have to creat a very large object "circle" with a radiant fill and then power clip with in the text but any tweaking would be time consuming, I think the new X6 has a much better power clip system where you can adjust power clipped objects in real time.
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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2012, 01:35:01 PM »
I think the new X6 has a much better power clip system where you can adjust power clipped objects in real time.

You are correct. The best term to use for this is Fill Following Shape and it is something I have been working on trying to get introduced into DRAW for a couple betas now.  Hopefully we will see it yet until then there are methods that will create this fill with a couple extra steps. Once you do it one or twice it isn't that big of a deal as your talking about a minute tops for thew workaround. 
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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2012, 07:53:23 AM »
it would be nice if they would do something like "lock fill" or something like that where you could distort something with a power clip or gradient and it would distort the fill evenly as well.

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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2012, 10:15:57 PM »
You could also fit the text to path then use a radial fountain fill in corel and adjust the center point so it lines up like you want.

this one took me 4 trial-and-errors to get right, center point at -75
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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2012, 11:00:11 PM »
Why not add all the 'real' gradient bs AFTER you've finished the blackine layout, and had it approved for scale layout spelling, etc?

Vector programs have all sorts of stuff to give you a preview and such, but that should never be considered final. ( TRUTH! )

A radial color-fill gradient, or layers of individual, multiplied, color gradient transparencies is how you achieve that, AFTER the fact.
( multiple objects give you better control )

Don't make funky effects ( the final stuff ) before you are done with your initial layout. ( moar TRUTH! )

This goes back to 'Art crap 101'.

Just sayin', cause many of you, apparently, don't know any better yet.

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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2012, 12:17:35 AM »
nice.

He asked how to do it, and got several options.

Not sure what your problem is with that.

maybe if he asked to see a blackline layout he would have got that.....

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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2012, 02:41:53 AM »
No..not what I meant.

My apologies....just typing thoughts, and not being very 'social' about it.

All options presented were good, but I'm talking about cart before horse stuff.

Thing is, the workflow running in that manner just won't quite do what he wants.

If you shape the fill object ( blackline or frame or whatever ) before doing the 'shiny' you will get better results.
'Shiny' stuff comes later.
That's what I'm referring to.

And Inkworks, I'm also agreeing with your example above, as well as several others.

« Last Edit: June 29, 2012, 02:46:07 AM by Chadwick »

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Re: curving fill?
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2012, 07:38:15 PM »
Sorry, my bad for being touchy last night, too many 12-14 hour days and working weekends, coming in grumpy usually means one will read "grumpy" into things that may not be meant that way.

It's all good now, 2700 black poly Dry-tech t's printing good and holding awesome detail on the back tiny multi sponsor print... was weighing heavy on my mind, heck the white is even staying white for a change thanks in no small part to tips posted on this forum.

Gotta get caught up and go fishing I guess.

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