spiders everywhere.

[Prosperi-Tees]

He's probably hungry!

[rmonks]

For the past 10 years or so i have had problems with brown recluse also known as fiddle back spiders in my shop. I sprayed and did about everything to try and get rid of them, i even ask a pest control company about how to kill them' he said it is almost impossible as a spiders body does not touch the surface that has been poisened. He said you have to get rid of their food source to get rid of them. But over the last year i quit spraying and noticed a reduction in the brown recluse population, but at the same time noticed a new spider and best i can tell it is a wolf spider. I beleive the wolf spider is hunting and eating the brown recluse.

[Chadwick]

"Cleaning himself. (after just being caught).  I wonder what makes them think to do this after being caught? Shows that they just don't care to worry too much."

I disagree. He ( she? ) likely feels violated and wants to feel clean again. Pick up a cat who doesn't like you and it will clean itself after you put it down.
Or, then again, since it's perception of it's surroundings is limited, it just figured it was a good time for maintenance. Who knows?

I'll admit that spiders do creep me out a bit, mostly because I know how they digest their food,
but I keep em around anyways, cause they eat ALOT of annoying insects.

Around here we've got these little red ones...like, really frickin small.
They appear in the spring, around runoff and such, and you get bit by one of those, you've got a heck of a welt. ( I know )

Other than that, most spiders around here won't mess with you, unless you mess with them.
Like those black ones..wolf spiders? fast as hell and they don't make webs. Take a swing at one and miss, and they'll come at you.
Tough arachnid. Not afraid of you in the least. I'd be a little put off taking on something the size of an aircraft carrier in relation to me.

We're lucky we're bigger than they are, or we'd be extinct.

[Chadwick]

Btw Dan..totally off topic,
but,
I see you're messing with videos now.
So...we gonna see some sep video?
 

[Shawn (EIP)]

I find silver fish in my shop sometimes, alien looking mofos and super fast freakiny looking worse than spiders.

[Dottonedan]

Btw Dan..totally off topic,
but,
I see you're messing with videos now.
So...we gonna see some sep video?
 

I'm sure one day I'll pop one out. I tried one as a test and learned how tough people are about how you say things, not worked right, not fast enough, not slow enough. I'm not into spending hours and hours making everyone comfy. Also, I get tired of paying for Vid programs. Bought one and it only works on macs....but can't get the sound to work right when saved for viewing. It's notorious for sound issues. So, got another for the PC. Lost my Mother Board a few months back and lost my Vid program on that. Gotta see if I can haggle with them and get the license and download again.

[Chadwick]

Sorry about the loss of the licenses.
Plenty of open source software out there you can use though.
Just gotta get out of that mac headspace, you have a pc now.

And, as an artist, I would have thought you'd know by now to not give a F*** what the critics have to say.
 
Just sayin.

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

I don't know how I missed this thread.

I can't see Mr. Spidey's back in the video, but it looks a lot like a Brown Recluse....and if so, get rid of them. They are damnable creatures and WILL mess you up if you are unlucky enough to be bitten. I've been bitten twice, and my wife once. Neither of us displayed the necrotic wound so typical of Brown Recluse toxins.  Google them and see the horror they can cause. I still have my Right Pinky flubbed up from a Fiddle Back (Brown Recluse) bite from Nov 8th, 2008. Detatched fingernail, peeling skin, itchy and an intermittent rash, 3 1/2 years ago.

For a positive ID, and I do mean positive....there is a nearly perfect violin shaped mark on their backs. Google again. They seem to be spreading, but do not exist everywhere. Californians don't have the Brown Recluse, http://www.brownreclusespider.org/brown-recluse-spider-location.htm but might have a few Hobos up North. Here is a map, although they may be more widespread than shown. http://www.burkemuseum.org/spidermyth/myths/hobo.html#

But here is the crux of what I have learned.  No, spiders don't kill out easily--at least directly--because of the reason stated above. Their head, thorax and abdomen are carried above much of the contact pestisides. But!!!! They have to eat, and they don't eat you, or groceries in the pantry.  You can see a great reduction in their population by starving them of their insect prey.  They are predators, solitary, and reculsive (hence the name) by nature. They are hunters and mostly nocturnal.  Kill out their food source and they are controlled.  But they are also cannibals and will feed for a time on each other, and survive.  Oh, and those eggs hatch too.

They love clutter. Boxes, wood piles, cardboard, books are perfect hiding spots.  Their webs are poorly made, and aren't used as much as beautiful garden spiders do, to catch their food.  They are your friends. Brown Recluses are NOBODYS friend. Trust me.  And unfortunately, the Hobo Spider is like a Brown Recluse, but sporting a  BAD ATTITUDE. They carry MAGNUMS and are aggressive. Brown Recluse aren't aggressive.

And if you find mud wasps, like what we call mud daubers in Kansas, the cells of their mud nests are often FILLED(!) with stung Brown Recluse Spiders... as food for their developing larvae. I LOVE Mud Daubers only because I HATE Fiddle Back Spiders. Our particular Mud Daubers are gentle and mostly considerate of interlopers, not like paper wasps.

We use Enforcer Flea Spray and it kills most all the critters Brown Recluse Spiders feed on. I buy it by the gallon at Atwoods, or Tractor Supply, and use it through a weed sprayer. Here is a link for Amazon cans, but it is too expensive that way. http://www.amazon.com/Enforcer-Prod-FS14-Flea-Spray/dp/B001ACMLPE  A gallon at Atwoods or other Farm Supply Stores was like $20.00 the last time we used it, with AMAZING and lasting results.

My 2 cents, WAAAY after the fact.

[mk162]

Hah, paper wasps.  I am dealing with those right now...so far over a dozen in the house.  My neighbor thought it would be a good idea to let his nest get the size of a basketball before getting rid of it.  So the ones that lived are looking for a new home.  I called out the pest company and they have done a great job with the hornets, but nothing with the spiders....

which brings me to, there isn't much you can do about spiders because there isn't a very effective way to kill them.  Their bodies walk above any spray or powder.  About the only thing you can do is treat for other bugs and try and stay on top of spider webs.

The $250 i spend a year on a pest service is worth it.  Everything they use is pet and kid friendly and the guy cleans the cobwebs off the house.  I couldn't be happier.

[Gilligan]

Am I the only one that likes bugs on here?

I carried a wasp out by hand the other day tht was trapped in the office, I'll get rid of wasp nest in bad places by hand.  Spiders are obvious, have to escort them out (some I leave so they can be effective inside).

Hell, I even escort roaches outside when they end up in the house... Ants are about the only thing that I don't tolerate and that is mainly because they don't take hints and persuasion... they just keep coming in!

[mk162]

so do roaches, and they carry plenty of diseases.  Paper wasps will sting you for sh!ts and giggles.

The problem we are seeing was the winter was so mild that it didn't kill off a lot of the pests, so now most nests are 3 times the size they normally are.  It's been a bad year for bugs.

[Frog]

Am I the only one that likes bugs on here?

I carried a wasp out by hand the other day tht was trapped in the office, I'll get rid of wasp nest in bad places by hand.  Spiders are obvious, have to escort them out (some I leave so they can be effective inside).

Hell, I even escort roaches outside when they end up in the house... Ants are about the only thing that I don't tolerate and that is mainly because they don't take hints and persuasion... they just keep coming in!

We keep spider relocation kits in three strategic locations.

[Gilligan]

so do roaches, and they carry plenty of diseases.  Paper wasps will sting you for sh!ts and giggles.

The problem we are seeing was the winter was so mild that it didn't kill off a lot of the pests, so now most nests are 3 times the size they normally are.  It's been a bad year for bugs.

Actually that is not true at all.   Roaches don't carry diseases like most people think.  Also, only female wasps sting, so you won't ALWAYS be stung.  Plus they don't sting for "fun".  Just like spiders won't bite for fun.  Now if you go and partially squish one, you WILL get bit/stung!

[Frog]

so do roaches, and they carry plenty of diseases.  Paper wasps will sting you for sh!ts and giggles.

The problem we are seeing was the winter was so mild that it didn't kill off a lot of the pests, so now most nests are 3 times the size they normally are.  It's been a bad year for bugs.

Sounds more like it is a good year for bugs! (bad year for Brads)