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Offline Itsa Little CrOoked

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How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« on: May 09, 2012, 11:20:23 PM »
I'm Separation Challenged. I admit it.

I have to print this job by Friday closing, and it is barely the minimum piece order for 2 plates. What can I do to get a reasonable product?

I'm sleepy and 18 hours dull, and I can't figure which direction to head. (That, and I almost don't care, after the kind of week it's been already.)

They are dirty green, 100% cotton.

Thanks!
Stan

Edit: Using PhotoShop.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2012, 07:43:18 AM by Itsa Little CrOoked »


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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2012, 11:25:18 PM »
I don't think you can get away with 2 colors. 3 maybe. Hopefully one of the Sep gurus will chime in.

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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2012, 12:08:27 AM »
Stan, I'm not sure on the discharge part.  I know you have Ultraseps.  I ran your image through mine and with just a little curve tweaking, looks like you can probably come pretty close with just Brown and Black (after you merge the Gray into the Brown), on a brownish-green shirt.  Not sure about the "dirty green" color.  I used R107,G130,B98 for the background.
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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2012, 08:46:09 AM »
I think it could work in 2 colors. I'd prefer 3, but it could work.

1 dark chock brown ( that leans towards the yellow side of brow) and a white.

We do have a major difference in how we handle seps between a plastisol and a (all discharge) sep.
The end seps are very different. I would say that you could start out with a sep program, but then have to turn them inside out a few times. A 2 color job like this does not show that difference in an extreme degree, but if you have a 4 color or more, they all must interact differently than you would do for plastisol. A person must do this " different" part. You can' include a new button for that in a program. You have to "think".

ScreenXpresses example looks to be the results used for reg plastisol. Still needs torqued a little.
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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2012, 10:03:28 AM »
Correct Dan. BTW this would pop much better with a highlight white or lite tone in those bright areas.

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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2012, 10:11:53 AM »
so what exactly do you do different for printing this with discharge vs plastisol, is is just how you blend the colors? I'm sure it's way more detailed than that, but just a round about idea -I haven't a clue.
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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2012, 11:59:39 AM »
I appreciate the replies!

I barely have time to sit down to look at the forum right now, we waaaaay overbooked this week. My wife and 2 other gals that sell and schedule don't QUITE get the screenprinting schedule completely...., like I don't know how to schedule embroidery, or order shirts.

I will look at this some more later today.

Wish I had an auto.   :)

Stan

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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 02:48:21 PM »
who makes the dirty green shirt, I wanted to see it to make a judgment on how I would tackle it... I like SE's sample, and agree with Dan and Tony about thinking differently about discharge, though I haven't worked with it in a few years.

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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2012, 04:05:53 PM »
Steve,

The shirt is marketed by Royal Apparel.  Never heard of them, (I don't order our shirts, ever...) so I attached a photo.
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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2012, 06:26:02 PM »
I know it's a small picture, but it sure does look a lot like Gildan Military Green.
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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 07:10:13 PM »
I know very little about shirt brands--who manufactures for whom, etc. This just says Royal Apparel.

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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 07:49:48 PM »
Maybe a discharge with a black with a nice black halftone around the skull..
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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2012, 08:29:22 PM »
That is a good effect, Scott 

How did you go about this, if you don't mind my asking?

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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 08:38:23 PM »
Can you print that without any brown?
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Re: How to sep this for 2 color discharge
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2012, 09:47:49 PM »
Royal is us made, pretty nice stuff, similar to AA.  Thats ring spun most likely and I have no clue regarding Royals dye process, better check on that, they are friendly folks, give em a call first.

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