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Offline Rockers

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compressor question
« on: April 09, 2012, 02:16:07 AM »
Our new Diamondback S 10/8 will be delivered in May and we still have to get a compressor. Unfortunately we can`t have it outside our building as we are located in a residential area and there is 
no space for a shed either. How can we silence a compressor inside your workspace. Building a box around it but will that really take out a lot of noise? And if we get a 10HP 80 gallon capacity compressor  approx. how often would that beast switch on an 500 pcs job?


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Re: compressor question
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2012, 05:23:52 AM »
Quickest way to silence is to go with a rotary. Failing that, a two stage of higher quality is quieter. Last is the single stage you got from Harbor freight. Enclosing with a sound proofing is acceptable BUT venting to fresh outside air would be preferred. Fully enclosed the ambient air temp in the enclosure would be detremental to the longevity of the compresser unit. The chiller should not be in the high heat enclosure. Using sound pads from ww grainger would be the best decibel reduction, with foam isulation next, with a layer of fiberglass. Sandwiched wall with foam on the inner surface would be the prefeered and would bring it to a mere fraction of it's former noise. Of course, a good rotary will start at 67-69 db and need no efort to silence. We have had equipment near offices and tried various methods over the years.

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Re: compressor question
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2012, 08:17:20 AM »
Cheers. I came across a great package type compressor with air dryer. Noise level of 56 dB which apparently is fairly low for a compressor of 10 HP.

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Re: compressor question
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2012, 08:26:54 AM »
If you build a closet around it extend the intake filter out the top and make sure you have some venting along the bottom, this way the machine is always in-taking fresh air and cool air is sucking in from the bottom to help keep the machine cool. Even just crappy insulated walls will cut the noise down quite a lot but if you go with high end sound proofing materials it will end up just about silent. Make sure one wall is hinged for easy access.
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Re: compressor question
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2012, 10:03:55 AM »
you really only need a 7.5 hp to run that press. if your going larger because of future expansion then bump to a 15 then you can run 2 all air machines. otherwise i would stay with a 7.5 and the 80 gallon tank..
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Re: compressor question
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2012, 11:29:32 AM »
We went with a Chicago Pneumatic 7.5HP QRS with 60 gal. tank (rated at 64db).  Haven't really paid much attention to how often it cycles.  It runs for maybe 2 minutes when it does charge and is not any louder than our single head embroidery machine.

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Re: compressor question
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2012, 11:55:54 AM »
Building a room around a piston compressor sounds good on the surface but you really need to move a LOT of air to keep the room even moderately cool.  We have a 10HP V-twin with 120 gal tank in the basement  in a soundproofed room with vents and an exhaust fan.  If we don't leave the door open the temp goes to way over a hundred in a hurry.  We're going to move to a rotary and have the old piston model as a back up.


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Re: compressor question
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2012, 12:18:44 PM »
Building a room around a piston compressor sounds good on the surface but you really need to move a LOT of air to keep the room even moderately cool.  We have a 10HP V-twin with 120 gal tank in the basement  in a soundproofed room with vents and an exhaust fan.  If we don't leave the door open the temp goes to way over a hundred in a hurry.  We're going to move to a rotary and have the old piston model as a back up.




Looking at the pic I don't see any venting?
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Re: compressor question
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2012, 12:31:05 PM »
There're 3 on the wall on the left that the door is hanging on.  The exhaust fan is the blue thing in the lower right corner of the room.
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Re: compressor question
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2012, 12:51:36 PM »
For sound dampening purposes that insulation board should be on the inside of that door.

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Re: compressor question
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2012, 01:35:35 PM »
It's a lot easier to get something that's quiet in the first place than quieting something after the fact.  We were running a 7.5 IR rotary screw, and once the room was insulated, and circulation fans were in the walls, it was maybe a 5-6 Db drop in sound.  Improvement, for sure, but pretty crappy for the time/material investment.  I'd say building a room would be more worth it if you were to do a transmission line style baffle--and then you need some serious blowers to push air around all those turns.  I'd drop a grand on a quieter compressor before I dropped that on materials and time for a room. 



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Re: compressor question
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2012, 01:54:16 PM »
 I'd drop a grand on a quieter compressor before I dropped that on materials and time for a room.

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Re: compressor question
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2012, 01:56:06 PM »
Agreed... but Rocker is in Japan, not sure what that means but that might change things as far as selection.

Sounds like he has a screwtype lined up though.

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Re: compressor question
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2012, 06:11:38 PM »
i have that same press and i run it with a 7.5 ingersol.  Rich actually told me a GOOD 5hp would run it.
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compressor question
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2012, 07:46:52 PM »
I hate my IR. I have the variable speed and it has been nothing but trouble. I am running my shop on a husky from HD again. My IR has been down since October.
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