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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2024, 01:12:29 PM »
If those are process inks they are the worst I've ever seen ;)

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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2024, 01:13:59 PM »
There's a lot going on there.

My hands cramped up just looking at that squeegee.

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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2024, 01:16:13 PM »
At least he didn't waste his money on a tension meter, or a................
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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2024, 02:02:32 PM »
Good question what's the lowest tension in your shop you can work with,  sad to say I've worked on my manual with some 13 to 14 tension screens but I like to not go below 18, gotta pull out the old meter and check a few screens LOL
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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2024, 02:27:28 PM »
Stevie friggen Wonder can see those reg marks, yikes....as long as the customer is happy and PAYS, you can use a screen door and ketchup. I don't give a rip....
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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2024, 03:17:04 PM »
It's fine as long as you adjust your curves for 950% dot gain...
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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2024, 04:33:16 PM »
Stevie friggen Wonder can see those reg marks, yikes....as long as the customer is happy and PAYS, you can use a screen door and ketchup. I don't give a rip....

Yup.  That's my comment.  LOL.  May as well have no reg marks. Just use the art.
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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2024, 05:26:25 PM »
I see a lot of critiquing, but a lack of people here posting their 4 color process work.  Probably 80% of this forum would be like "just DTF that", which feels terrible on a shirt.

I think his prints look good, and his inks look like normal plastisol process inks to me, lower viscosity so they blend.

He got good grays which I think is difficult with 4 color process, brown looks goods good, and he's showing his work.  Comments on youtube are positive (which is hard to achieve).  I personally would have tried printing MYCK since I think the beak is too dark but I haven't seen the original art so could be dead on.

Let's see the people poking fun post

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  • Photos of 4 Color Process Prints
  • Photos of Ink in Screen
  • Newton Meter on Screens
  • Registering 4 Color Process with No Registration Marks
  • Your Ergonomic Squeegees
  • Your RIP Curves for Dot Gain

Show N Tell times boys, let's see what you got.  Bet you won't.

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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2024, 09:04:58 PM »
You first. I mean, since you did the challenge.

But what we do know is that (what we see), in the results stand a far greater chance of not looking good compared to the original intent. It’s got many example of how not to print CMYK.
Does it look good?   Yea, most prints do if you don’t look at the original.

For me, I can show my original and my print with all of the details you mentioned. But you first. ;)
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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2024, 10:08:19 PM »
This is the internet. Arm chair critique is essential for our personal well being.
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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2024, 04:05:05 AM »
I see a lot of critiquing, but a lack of people here posting their 4 color process work.  Probably 80% of this forum would be like "just DTF that", which feels terrible on a shirt.

I think his prints look good, and his inks look like normal plastisol process inks to me, lower viscosity so they blend.

He got good grays which I think is difficult with 4 color process, brown looks goods good, and he's showing his work.  Comments on youtube are positive (which is hard to achieve).  I personally would have tried printing MYCK since I think the beak is too dark but I haven't seen the original art so could be dead on.

Let's see the people poking fun post

  • Source Art
  • Photos of 4 Color Process Prints
  • Photos of Ink in Screen
  • Newton Meter on Screens
  • Registering 4 Color Process with No Registration Marks
  • Your Ergonomic Squeegees
  • Your RIP Curves for Dot Gain

Show N Tell times boys, let's see what you got.  Bet you won't.
I was laughing at the screen tension at first, too, but in the end, the result is not too bad, especially considering the resources they have in certain countries. I saw Stevie Wonder on TV this morning and was reminded of this post right away.

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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2024, 06:41:00 AM »
I didn't see anyone bashing the print. I was pretty clear by the title, I've never seen a screen bow like that  ;D
The end print looked acceptable to me and since I started the post I'll play. I'm the hackiest of hacks, but it pays the bills.  :D

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1374715703449252 cmyk
https://www.facebook.com/reel/785854532740825 cmyk

I'm doing another full color process today, I'll post them up later.
The black shirt is just a sim process. The orange is an index, first one I've ever done. It came out close-ish to the artwork, which was not great, and the customer loved them.
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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2024, 07:12:56 AM »
I forgot I had these hanging up.
The coffee one is only a CMY
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Re: Screen tension is highly overrated :-D
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2024, 12:16:10 PM »
Summer daze and the clouds are awesome! Hard to keep that nice fade.
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