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We are looking at one too. Just got a quote today. Would love to hear from anyone that has one. Doesn't this thing look like a Lotus Holland? Any thought?
Quote from: 1964GN on August 04, 2021, 05:35:08 PMWe are looking at one too. Just got a quote today. Would love to hear from anyone that has one. Doesn't this thing look like a Lotus Holland? Any thought?It does. The guy from Lotus Holland used to work at Inpro.
We had to buy our Lotus-Holland in a hurry so there wasn't time for shopping around but the InPro sales rep was super responsive and I probably would've looked harder at the differences between the two units if given the time. I think you'd need to see them in person as well as one of them working in a shop to really make a fully informed decision.Looking over the notes that InPro sent and after discussing some features of the Lotus with that crew I think both manufacturers are always looking to make slight improvements- a chain drive here v. a rubber belt there -that help maintain uptime and decrease maintenance. There are probably features of each that I would prefer over the other. At the end of the day, these are all (or at least the good ones should be) very simple machines; basically conveyorized dip tanks with a pressure wash finish. My advice is go with whatever unit feels right from whomever you like. One strength that InPro may have over Lotus is that they also sell the chem and, I assume, would help line you up on what to use and how. Lotus doesn't assist at all with the chem, machine only, so we had to get that info from our vendor and another shop effectively which needlessly wasted a lot of our time. TLDR; you need to temper each chamber's chem by monitoring the ph. Starting chem ratios should be ph based, not ratio based.To be clear, we're perfectly happy with our Lotus. Install and the chem thing mentioned above was weird and could be greatly (and easily) improved but, once you survive install and are armed with the chemical info you need, I wouldn't hesitate to buy again.No issues with our M3 roller frames and thin thread mesh here. We also run statics with thin thread and permanent blockout. The auto reclaimer works great on all of them.
Quote from: ZooCity on August 10, 2021, 12:31:58 PMWe had to buy our Lotus-Holland in a hurry so there wasn't time for shopping around but the InPro sales rep was super responsive and I probably would've looked harder at the differences between the two units if given the time. I think you'd need to see them in person as well as one of them working in a shop to really make a fully informed decision.Looking over the notes that InPro sent and after discussing some features of the Lotus with that crew I think both manufacturers are always looking to make slight improvements- a chain drive here v. a rubber belt there -that help maintain uptime and decrease maintenance. There are probably features of each that I would prefer over the other. At the end of the day, these are all (or at least the good ones should be) very simple machines; basically conveyorized dip tanks with a pressure wash finish. My advice is go with whatever unit feels right from whomever you like. One strength that InPro may have over Lotus is that they also sell the chem and, I assume, would help line you up on what to use and how. Lotus doesn't assist at all with the chem, machine only, so we had to get that info from our vendor and another shop effectively which needlessly wasted a lot of our time. TLDR; you need to temper each chamber's chem by monitoring the ph. Starting chem ratios should be ph based, not ratio based.To be clear, we're perfectly happy with our Lotus. Install and the chem thing mentioned above was weird and could be greatly (and easily) improved but, once you survive install and are armed with the chemical info you need, I wouldn't hesitate to buy again.No issues with our M3 roller frames and thin thread mesh here. We also run statics with thin thread and permanent blockout. The auto reclaimer works great on all of them.ZooCity, do you use yours as a developer also? Looks like this is a topic on people's minds as I'm also looking. Space-wise, I probably just have room for the developer alone, but wondering if the ROI is there for just the developer side. Doing 40-70 screens a day here. Current system is: wax CTS--> free-standing LED exposure lamp --> water filled developing tank --> washout booth with operator spraying out. Granted, this whole system is often run by 1 operator so there's lots of back and forth. Finally, we're an MHM shop so wondering about wear on pegs on the conveyor belt..