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Offline lancasterprinthouse

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Cleaning roller frames
« on: October 18, 2019, 03:14:20 PM »
I swear I saw a thread on this in the past on here but a search turned up nothing of benefit.

I just bought a load of used MZX frames and now I realize why I never buy used. Anyways, no reason to cry over spilt milk so I’m looking for the fastest and easiest way to clean them up. My thought was to get a Rubbermaid that fits the longest bars, take them all apart and let them soak for a few days in a cleaner or some kind. Question is, what kind or brand? After that I was thinking power washing them might be the fastest way but I’m looking for suggestions.

Anybody ever clean up more than a handful before?




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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2019, 03:24:40 PM »
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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2019, 06:28:37 PM »
If you find the secret to that, you could clean up. 

Pardon the pun.

I tried 3 or 4 different products for glue residue removal along with razor blades and light emory cloth.  I had about 25 and finally got them cleaned up to be usable.
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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2019, 07:59:53 PM »
My concern is exposing the threads to harsh chemicals if you take it apart and soak them.
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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2019, 10:12:09 PM »
I swear I saw a thread on this in the past on here but a search turned up nothing of benefit.

I just bought a load of used MZX frames and now I realize why I never buy used. Anyways, no reason to cry over spilt milk so I’m looking for the fastest and easiest way to clean them up. My thought was to get a Rubbermaid that fits the longest bars, take them all apart and let them soak for a few days in a cleaner or some kind. Question is, what kind or brand? After that I was thinking power washing them might be the fastest way but I’m looking for suggestions.

Anybody ever clean up more than a handful before?





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We always clean them once we have to re-stretch them. Right now I have 30 that need re-stretetching. Cleaned them all with spot cleaning fluid plus a quick rinse with the pressure washer. Works like a charm.
Apart from that we are done with Roller Frames, too expensive and we found the perfect static frames, get them stretched by Murakami and we have almost no loss of tension. They are all at around 22-24N even after heavy use for years.
 
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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2019, 10:25:39 PM »
I swear I saw a thread on this in the past on here but a search turned up nothing of benefit.

I just bought a load of used MZX frames and now I realize why I never buy used. Anyways, no reason to cry over spilt milk so I’m looking for the fastest and easiest way to clean them up. My thought was to get a Rubbermaid that fits the longest bars, take them all apart and let them soak for a few days in a cleaner or some kind. Question is, what kind or brand? After that I was thinking power washing them might be the fastest way but I’m looking for suggestions.

Anybody ever clean up more than a handful before?





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We always clean them once we have to re-stretch them. Right now I have 30 that need re-stretetching. Cleaned them all with spot cleaning fluid plus a quick rinse with the pressure washer. Works like a charm

When I have to remesh my own frames it doesn’t take long to clean them but you should see these frames. They’ll easily take 30-45 minutes per frame. The photos in the ad didn’t look this bad. Might just put them away for a slow day project and buy some new ones. We’re way too busy to spend this kind of time on these right now


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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2019, 10:35:39 PM »
I swear I saw a thread on this in the past on here but a search turned up nothing of benefit.

I just bought a load of used MZX frames and now I realize why I never buy used. Anyways, no reason to cry over spilt milk so I’m looking for the fastest and easiest way to clean them up. My thought was to get a Rubbermaid that fits the longest bars, take them all apart and let them soak for a few days in a cleaner or some kind. Question is, what kind or brand? After that I was thinking power washing them might be the fastest way but I’m looking for suggestions.

Anybody ever clean up more than a handful before?





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We always clean them once we have to re-stretch them. Right now I have 30 that need re-stretetching. Cleaned them all with spot cleaning fluid plus a quick rinse with the pressure washer. Works like a charm

When I have to remesh my own frames it doesn’t take long to clean them but you should see these frames. They’ll easily take 30-45 minutes per frame. The photos in the ad didn’t look this bad. Might just put them away for a slow day project and buy some new ones. We’re way too busy to spend this kind of time on these right now


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I don`t understand how this can happen in the first place. I tell my guys part of cleaning screens is as well the actual frame. I get a minor freak out when I find ink on the frames after they have been cleaned.

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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2019, 10:37:13 PM »
I swear I saw a thread on this in the past on here but a search turned up nothing of benefit.

I just bought a load of used MZX frames and now I realize why I never buy used. Anyways, no reason to cry over spilt milk so I’m looking for the fastest and easiest way to clean them up. My thought was to get a Rubbermaid that fits the longest bars, take them all apart and let them soak for a few days in a cleaner or some kind. Question is, what kind or brand? After that I was thinking power washing them might be the fastest way but I’m looking for suggestions.

Anybody ever clean up more than a handful before?





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We always clean them once we have to re-stretch them. Right now I have 30 that need re-stretetching. Cleaned them all with spot cleaning fluid plus a quick rinse with the pressure washer. Works like a charm

When I have to remesh my own frames it doesn’t take long to clean them but you should see these frames. They’ll easily take 30-45 minutes per frame. The photos in the ad didn’t look this bad. Might just put them away for a slow day project and buy some new ones. We’re way too busy to spend this kind of time on these right now


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I don`t understand how this can happen in the first place. I tell my guys part of cleaning screens is as well the actual frame. I get a minor freak out when I find ink on the frames after they have been cleaned.

Same. I can’t stand frames that are dirty. The way these frames are makes me wonder what this shop looks like. I can’t even handle them without getting dirty or sticky from the tape residue. How you produce quality work with frames like this is beyond me.


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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2019, 12:34:38 AM »
Have you tried acetone?     

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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2019, 10:06:11 AM »
Acetone soak will definitely work. Soaking in Goo Gone would probably do the trick as well.

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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2019, 11:17:31 AM »
I'm sorry , I just do not understand why shops deal with those doing everyday work. The labor involved is just flooring to me vs. Statics. I am just venting and am not trying to start a 'why use roller frames debate" more power to ya'll
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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2019, 11:40:30 AM »
I'm sorry , I just do not understand why shops deal with those doing everyday work. The labor involved is just flooring to me vs. Statics. I am just venting and am not trying to start a 'why use roller frames debate" more power to ya'll

Rick, some folks just seem to have accepted the extra time with the higher tension and hopefully higher quality prints, and made the roller decision.
That said, many of us old timers remember seeing (and/or producing) damn good stuff with static frames, even those made of wood, when they were the norm!
It's just one more variable that many want to control to the max.
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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2019, 12:17:37 PM »
It's not necessarily higher tension, but adjustable and controllable tension to some. There are some very anal people out there.
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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2019, 12:40:41 PM »
we treat our roller frames as statics - dont really retention (although we should)

but the advantage to us is that we dont have to wait for a shipment of frames to arrive.  we throw a panel on, tension, shelf, retention, shelf and  degrease, coat etc.

we get panels from shur loc, we can choose our mesh count and thread diameter...  its slightly cheaper per panel but evens out when labor is factored in.

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Re: Cleaning roller frames
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2019, 12:42:32 PM »
It's not necessarily higher tension, but adjustable and controllable tension to some. There are some very anal people out there.

*raises hand*


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