Total impressions, what exactly is that?

[Dottonedan]

I'm just wondering for discussion, how is the impressions count broken down on a press run?


Is that total including each color, and lint roller for every time the squeegee stroke is assign dot pull, or is that just total quantity of order entered?


It would seem that impressions" would be any stroke.

[GKitson]

Gonna take a spin on your 2 choices, we count an impression as each time the press indexes.

My 2 cents...

[Dottonedan]

Gonna take a spin on your 2 choices, we count an impression as each time the press indexes.

My 2 cents...

.  That makes good sense.   "Spin".  I see what you did there.


So for the total impressions count on a press, it calculates indexing impressions only during an order when you start? it would seem that it shouldn't count just warming up pallets for example.

[GKitson]

You are correct regarding the platen warming up issue, depending on the programing software on the press quite a few of us have creatively 'fooled' the press into running for several minutes during a warm up cucle and this actaully records TOTAL impressions printed.

For instance when we do revolver PFP on an older press without legit revolver programming an order of 50 garments PFP will hit the counter as 100 impressions.

Daily reports may be a better place to record impressions billed.

[mk162]

You are correct regarding the platen warming up issue, depending on the programing software on the press quite a few of us have creatively 'fooled' the press into running for several minutes during a warm up cucle and this actaully records TOTAL impressions printed.

For instance when we do revolver PFP on an older press without legit revolver programming an order of 50 garments PFP will hit the counter as 100 impressions.

Daily reports may be a better place to record impressions billed.

On our old gauntlet, it wouldn't record impressions unless a print head was on.  It would also not count the unload cycles on a print finish. 

[tonypep]

I used to think about this often. Warming up and running off shirts on a given order should not count. Depends on the different functions on different presses. It inflates the numbers over time.
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[Maxie]

We keep a record of how many images we print per order, we don't use the counter on the machine to record this.     I don't say shirts because front and back is double, sleeves add another one.
For us it would be totally inaccutate, set up, test prints, warm up would all throw it out.

[Nation03]

Yeah my press adds an impression every index. So when I preheat pallets with tack it's counting those as impressions. Wish it didn't because I don't have an accurate number on actual prints but it isn't the end of the world. On revolver mode it won't count the additional revolutions as impressions.

[3Deep]

Good question to tinker with here, if you only count impressions then yeah count every time you make one, but to me every time that machine rotates around it counts for something LOL

[RICK STEFANICK]

We reset the counters starting each new size just as a additional count check. If pallet warming is necessary they reset as they load the first garment. Here impression is every index with a garment,

[ABuffington]

since I had older presses without some of the new features, isn't it possible to reset the counter to 0 on the first shirt on newer presses?  An older M&R with toggle switches made this easy.

[Underbase37]

Here we count a "finished impressions" as one impression.

3 color front
6 color back
1 color hip
= 3 impressions
150 shirts x3 = 450 impressions

I see how one makes the case that every time the squeegee pulls it's an impression.

I guess it depends on how you're using it.



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[Dottonedan]

Sounds arbitrary for everyone really.  No wrong or right.

For me, I would be in the camp of Squeegee strokes. A double stroke is two impressions. Any transfer of ink (in my opinion).  Probably same for total impression count on the life of a machine. It would count roller strokes as well.

On the I-Image machine, it counts every exposure, and every print even if it’s just a nozzle Check.

[Zelko-4-EVA]

Sounds arbitrary for everyone really.  No wrong or right.

For me, I would be in the camp of Squeegee strokes. A double stroke is two impressions. Any transfer of ink (in my opinion).  Probably same for total impression count on the life of a machine. It would count roller strokes as well.

On the I-Image machine, it counts every exposure, and every print even if it’s just a nozzle Check.

how can i find the number of prints on our i-Image ST ?

[RICK STEFANICK]

Here we count a "finished impressions" as one impression.

3 color front
6 color back
1 color hip
= 3 impressions
150 shirts x3 = 450 impressions

I see how one makes the case that every time the squeegee pulls it's an impression.

I guess it depends on how you're using it.



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That would be correct