Stock Red

[avogel]

What does everyone use for a stock bucket Red? We have used several different ones and we always seem to get some vendor complaints that our stock red is to orange. Currently we have Union Bright Red. Color is better than some of the others, I just hate the way it runs. To thick and gummy for my liking. I am hoping someone has a good suggestion so we don't have to go to a mix for stock red.

[mimosatexas]

rio custom mix. we honestly run like 5 reds depending on the art, shirt color, etc.

[blue moon]

Which bright red?
Pierre

[Frog]

I've used Union Bright red for my stock red for close to 30 years! It's exactly what I think that a red should look like. I have someone who runs some contract for me, and his red, 185C, is too orange, and I may call out a different Pantone next time. Anyone know what the closest pantone # to Union's Bright red is?

Also, for the OP, are you using Union Ultrasoft? (Kinda' what blue moon asked as well while I was typing)
Do you modify it at all? Even thirty years ago, we were kicking in some "Clear for Silver" before there was the wide variety of soft hand bases out there.

[avogel]

We are running ultrasoft. We have the Union bucket, and then like mimosatexas, we have about 5 other Red mixes that we use as "stock red" for various projects and applications. I just wanted to see what everyone is using. Hoping maybe I find a good red that I haven't tried yet. Union and QCM have the best color but run the worst. GSG Vortex and Wilflex Epic National run good but everyone complains that its too orange.

[Ross_S]

Pantone 200 in wilflex equalizers is our stock red. 

[blue moon]

I've used Union Bright red for my stock red for close to 30 years! It's exactly what I think that a red should look like. I have someone who runs some contract for me, and his red, 185C, is too orange, and I may call out a different Pantone next time. Anyone know what the closest pantone # to Union's Bright red is?

Also, for the OP, are you using Union Ultrasoft? (Kinda' what blue moon asked as well while I was typing)
Do you modify it at all? Even thirty years ago, we were kicking in some "Clear for Silver" before there was the wide variety of soft hand bases out there.

'pretty certain right Red is 186C. It is slightly darker than the 185 which makes it less orange. . .

pierre

[blue moon]

We are running ultrasoft. We have the Union bucket, and then like mimosatexas, we have about 5 other Red mixes that we use as "stock red" for various projects and applications. I just wanted to see what everyone is using. Hoping maybe I find a good red that I haven't tried yet. Union and QCM have the best color but run the worst. GSG Vortex and Wilflex Epic National run good but everyone complains that its too orange.

Red has always been most difficult color for us, both plastisol and DC. We also use the Union BR Ultrasoft and have learned to give it some room. We usually print it right before the flash and on a slightly thicker mesh.  We try really hard not to step on it and it sort of works. It could always be better, but with little care it's acceptable.
I don't remember the red being any different from the other ultrasoft colors. . . How old is you ink?

pierre

[Dottonedan]

We've been using a Drake Red.  Works great for sim process and spot colors.

[mk162]

We have several, but our main two we try and match in other ink series are Epic National Red and Epic Dallas Scarlet.  I have moved away from the Epic series since the last batch of Scarlet was more to the brown side and didn't print well.  We returned the gallons and our supplier told us they were fine.  So my guess is that's how they are now and I think they are terrible compared to the old Genesis system.

[Sbrem]

185, 186, 1795, 200, 485... I used to print signs for a guy who told me there were only 3 reds. At least, that's all he offered lol.

Steve

[RICK STEFANICK]

What does everyone use for a stock bucket Red? We have used several different ones and we always seem to get some vendor complaints that our stock red is to orange. Currently we have Union Bright Red. Color is better than some of the others, I just hate the way it runs. To thick and gummy for my liking. I am hoping someone has a good suggestion so we don't have to go to a mix for stock red.

We don't use that here but I love that red and ran the maxopake version for years. A little Rutland Chino base is worth its weight in gold in use with that product. That Red is what i think about when I think about red. Its the perfect red.

[Nation03]

Wilflex Really Red is my new standard. Closest Pantone is 711C. Great all around red. I do mix a lot of custom colors these days. Just mixed 485C and it was on the orange side but I think I goofed up on which inks to use. Unions Unimatch system is a little puzzling at times.

[StinkyDaddy]

Wilflex National Red has been my go to for many years. I'm almost out and I'm thinking about just mixing one with Rio instead of reordering.

[blue moon]

Wilflex Really Red is my new standard. Closest Pantone is 711C. Great all around red. I do mix a lot of custom colors these days. Just mixed 485C and it was on the orange side but I think I goofed up on which inks to use. Unions Unimatch system is a little puzzling at times.

485 going on med to dark gray will look orange. Grab a pantone book and put it on top and it's 485. Sometimes you have to manage the perception. . .

pierre