S Mesh give Up!!

[ABuffington]

PS Spot Color is one of our best restretchers of S mesh.  His statics are as good if not better than what we stretch here on the west coast.  Thanks Scott for all your efforts.  He is a good source for restretching Murakami S mesh.

[3Deep]

As I mention it's all on me from my rough handling of screens, plus I have a mix of screens and sometimes I just grab one and go to work, yes if I had all s mesh then it might be different, and NO knock on Spot Color they do a great job.  The saati mesh frames to me work well and I can be just a little rough with them, and they are tension just and nice as they do the S mesh frames, trying to teach an old dog new tricks here 

[Homer]

come on D, you got to treat them like a lady...don't be in a hurry, take your time..........can't be smacking them all around, banging against the wall...............well....unless that's your thing


proper tensioned S mesh and DTS = I'd quit before giving up either.

[ffokazak]

I find that the difference between a print from a 28 newton 135 and a 20 newton 135 is not enough of a difference to risk it popping in a rack. it is significantly more prone to damage if the tension is higher. Unlike when I used to push the limits on a 110 T mesh, ( I would get up to 60 newtons on those babies) I don't see the benefit of higher mesh s mesh.

With the proper tension, I don't think we would ever switch as a bit of extra handling means far far superior printing. Automatics were built for s mesh especially if you have a press that can do fast strokes.

[lancasterprinthouse]

you def. have to be more delicate with them.

Is anyone else having issues with spot color? We've been getting less and less tight screens, and overall have just had pretty lackluster service.

Agreed. And I DID bring it up to their attention multiple times and didn’t get anywhere.


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[Rockers]

We get our screens stretched by Murakami. They are perfect. We tell them what tension we want and they come back as requested. If we don`t request a certain tension level then they come back stretched to the upper limit for that particular mesh count. Not sure though if Murakami offers that service in the US.

[1964GN]

you def. have to be more delicate with them.

Is anyone else having issues with spot color? We've been getting less and less tight screens, and overall have just had pretty lackluster service.

No complaints about the screen quality. On a side note: We have started getting Sefar SE mesh and have been very happy with it so far.

[Rockers]

NBC mesh seems to be very much underrated. It`s cheaper and equally good as Murakami S mesh.

[hoogie]

Spot Color is great I email them I need labels for there boxes, Scott sends them right away I include what mesh counts I would like and what I would like them custom stretched to. And don't have to worry about them again. Great company.

[scott316]

Hello this is Scott With Spot Color Supply. I wanted to thank you all for your post the good and the bad. While Brannon takes care of making sure you get some of the best screens in the industry.  I need to make sure you get the best customer service possible. I want to apologize to anyone here that I have not taken care of with speed and clarity. Going forward I will make sure we are better at commutation with our customers. We will be moving Emily up to customer service to make sure your emails get responded to with quick and updated information. You are still more than welcome to contact me or Brannon any time.

If anyone has any issues they would like to talk to me about call or email me sales@spotcolorsupply.com. I would like to offer anyone that has had any problems with us 15% off of our re-stretch services. Please PM me with your issues and I will get you a coupon code sent on over.

[Atownsend]

Ok, I know some you have said that S mesh is the jam!!! so I jumped on them too, ordered them from a few different companies, nothing wrong with the screens it's all me I've popped just about everyone I've got LOL.  I think I'll stick with Spotcolor Supply and there saati screens, they are nice and tight and I can be a little rougher on them than those s mesh, print wise I don't really see that much of a difference except for the 135 S when printing white ink.  just my rant for today.

Are you running the thin thread with the same pressure as your regular mesh? If you back off the pressure a bit you should see a pretty big difference between a 150/48 then say a regular old 155, or even a 110 for that matter. Since you can print with less pressure you can lay the ink right on top of the shirt easier, giving you more opacity.

We might pop 1 screen per month. And every single time it is our fault. It gets nicked in the dip tank, or a corner of a screen will run into the mesh of another if everything isn't racked properly. Screen guy got too close with the pressure washer and caused a micro hole that went unnoticed, or on the stretching table we thought that 32N was "close enough" and it'll hold (it has before...).

The zippers will do it too. Foam taped to the back of the screen or a sweatshirt sleeve doubled or tripled over and taped will fix that. But you should still use a notched squeegee or a 4"er.

Don't give up on the thin thread! You can print faster with less pressure which means higher opacity. With the right art, pressure / speed settings, EOM, you can get one hit whites a lot of the time. We do it regularly with 135/55. This means more production! Better to spend the time on screen making, proper handling etc than extra time on press. We use newmans so if we pop one we can stretch another one up, I would probably cry if we were popping statics so I feel your frustration there.

NBC mesh seems to be very much underrated. It`s cheaper and equally good as Murakami S mesh.

Agreed. NBC rules. Specs are very comparable to Murakami. They hook it up for us and I find their pricing is awesome. 135/55, 150/48, 230/40, 280/35 is what we run at the moment. Have used both the beta and alpha series with much success. The one area where I think Murakami might have a leg up is with the LX mesh (fused knuckles I think), but I have not compared.

[RICK STEFANICK]

Ok, I know some you have said that S mesh is the jam!!! so I jumped on them too, ordered them from a few different companies, nothing wrong with the screens it's all me I've popped just about everyone I've got LOL.  I think I'll stick with Spotcolor Supply and there saati screens, they are nice and tight and I can be a little rougher on them than those s mesh, print wise I don't really see that much of a difference except for the 135 S when printing white ink.  just my rant for today.

Dave at Bimm Ridder is going to lose some sleep over this. He lives for screen tension the thin mesh and Newmann Rollers. I would keep a lookout for a email..

[dirkdiggler]

Spot Color is great I email them I need labels for there boxes, Scott sends them right away I include what mesh counts I would like and what I would like them custom stretched to. And don't have to worry about them again. Great company.

Labels??? Scott sends you UPS label? 

[spotcolorsupply]

Spot Color is great I email them I need labels for there boxes, Scott sends them right away I include what mesh counts I would like and what I would like them custom stretched to. And don't have to worry about them again. Great company.

Labels??? Scott sends you UPS label?

Yes some customers like to use our ups account to ship frames to us. Then we bill them one way in shipping. Our discount is sometimes better per box.

[dirkdiggler]

Spot Color is great I email them I need labels for there boxes, Scott sends them right away I include what mesh counts I would like and what I would like them custom stretched to. And don't have to worry about them again. Great company.

Labels??? Scott sends you UPS label?

Yes some customers like to use our ups account to ship frames to us. Then we bill them one way in shipping. Our discount is sometimes better per box.

No, just use your account but dont bill me!