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Offline head north

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Plascharge disposal
« on: November 14, 2011, 10:53:14 AM »
Hey all -
I'm sure this will vary slightly with location but is there anything that needs to be done to dispose of extra plascharge/plasticharge properly?  Obviously it would be best to only mix the amount needed (both for cost and disposal) but in the event there is extra, what should be done with it?
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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2011, 11:23:57 AM »
Perhaps someone from Union and/or Wilflex could help on this one.
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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2011, 11:47:41 AM »
They might not due to liability issues. It will vary depending on County and waste treatment chemistry. At one company we brought in a waste watre treatment specialist who redommended a three part filtration system. We had the water tested and passed. I know of others who let it sit until most of the odor is gone and dumpster it. Or you can have a waste disposal company handle it.

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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2011, 11:54:33 AM »
With regular plastisol, in general, it is no problem when cured, so ink spread on cardboard sent through the dryer often does the trick.

When the extra discharge stuff is added to this, I don't know if the equation changes or not.
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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2011, 12:01:48 PM »
From the little plasticharge I have used the excess simply drys up all crusty like. The general rule of thumb is if its dry you can toss it in the trash.

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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2011, 02:40:52 PM »
Something I've done to get rid of volumes of plastisol is to take a cheap-azz aluminum sheet for catching grease in an oven or for using as a one-time cookie sheet (they're available in the grocery store by the rolls of foil), affixing some wire at two corners that you can secure to your dryer, slop the ink on, and let the sheet ride into the dryer as far as the wire will let it and leave it in there a few of minutes. Pull it back out, let it cool, and peel off the ink and discard. Load 'er up again. You can leave it in the dryer as long as you want and it won't burn and will cure a fairly thick ink layer.
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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2011, 02:45:20 PM »
holy cow that is both genius and totally redneck.  I LOVE it.

I have often thought about getting a large toaster oven and putting ink in that to cure it.  I've even used a metal cart with a cookie sheet on it and a flash unit hovering a couple inches overhead....that works great as well.

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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2011, 02:47:21 PM »
If I'm not mistaken, Andy used to use an old microwave to get rid of unwanted plastisol.
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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2011, 02:51:02 PM »
I had the perfect toaster oven too, and I tossed it.  It was an old black and decker that I swear was from 1982.  It was HUGE.  You could have easily done a large chicken or small turkey in this thing.

It's probably best that I tossed it because I am sure the use over the years was tough on the wires and the insulation..who knows if it was safe to use.

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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2011, 02:58:03 PM »
Something I've done to get rid of volumes of plastisol is to take a cheap-azz aluminum sheet for catching grease in an oven or for using as a one-time cookie sheet (they're available in the grocery store by the rolls of foil), affixing some wire at two corners that you can secure to your dryer, slop the ink on, and let the sheet ride into the dryer as far as the wire will let it and leave it in there a few of minutes. Pull it back out, let it cool, and peel off the ink and discard. Load 'er up again. You can leave it in the dryer as long as you want and it won't burn and will cure a fairly thick ink layer.

how much is a fairly thick ink layer?  1/4" or 2"

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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2011, 03:08:09 PM »
If I'm not mistaken, Andy used to use an old microwave to get rid of unwanted plastisol.

Yeah, but that was only after getting busted using the one in the kitchen, lol!

But seriously folks, I was always disappointed in the small volumes I could do at a time., because, thinner is better.

And we are still not addressing the issue of whether the additives in this particular ink puts the kibosh on the deal.
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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2011, 06:51:24 PM »
From the little plasticharge I have used the excess simply drys up all crusty like. The general rule of thumb is if its dry you can toss it in the trash.

Let me fix that for you.. 

any CURED ink is safe for the dumpster, anything else is not.

That cookie sheet method is about the smartest idea I've ever heard to cure old ink!!
Load it up before lunch or break and let it sit then peel.. fuc!ing genius!!

I've got two of them that need to be replaced.. honeyyy!! we need new cookie sheets!
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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2011, 07:38:58 PM »
how much is a fairly thick ink layer?  1/4" or 2"

I'd say what I've done is about 1/4" thick. Next time I do it I've got about a pint of some old Wilflex Bright Tiger that's shot. I'll plop that on the tin and see if it cures all the way through. Leave it in there long enough with the dryer on full hot and it should cure. Breaking it open would prove it or not.
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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2011, 08:39:42 PM »
I've been curious to what others do about screen tape? Do you all just toss in the garbage or have a disposal service pickup?

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Re: Plascharge disposal
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2011, 01:50:07 AM »
I've been curious to what others do about screen tape? Do you all just toss in the garbage or have a disposal service pickup?

I leave it on and apply ink remover in the sink first. Rinse and peel then reclaim.
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