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Offline ericheartsu

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what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« on: February 22, 2017, 01:38:30 PM »
I have screens, i have the teflon, what's the best way to put the two together?!
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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2017, 01:47:02 PM »
You have some of the stuff but I highly recommend the roller kit from Action.......comes with the roller and the prefab teflon screen. So worth the money. Several different uses.

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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2017, 01:58:01 PM »
yup, we used to use a homemade one...I will never go back.

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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2017, 02:46:40 PM »
Coat a high tension screen of choice with emulsion.  Expose it fully with no image.  Get double back 3M sticky tape Action sells this.  Apply to teflon - apply to screen.  You can also buy the teflon sheet with the tape applied from Action last I checked.

We purchased a screen and roller from them.  Its doin ok over the last 6 months+.  Lots and lots of use.  I am not sure what its life span is.
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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2017, 03:05:04 PM »
...keep doing what you're doing, you'll only get what you've got...

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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2017, 03:44:17 PM »
Look at the s.roque iron screens. Best fit I think.  We expose a screen, platen tape, spray tack the Teflon on,  polyken white tape the edges.  But I think a roll to roll tension like the roq version is smarter.  Could probably be built in an hour from a static frame.

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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2017, 05:12:57 PM »
Old thread, but somehow some of you missed this guy at Long Beach... We like to think this is the BEST way to do it, and no, it's not as easy as we make it look to make these things.

http://shur-loc.mysimplestore.com/t/tefloc---ptfe-coated-fabric-panels
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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2017, 06:01:50 PM »
Old thread, but somehow some of you missed this guy at Long Beach... We like to think this is the BEST way to do it, and no, it's not as easy as we make it look to make these things.

http://shur-loc.mysimplestore.com/t/tefloc---ptfe-coated-fabric-panels


Nice solution!

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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2017, 06:18:10 PM »
We have a roller and teflon attached to a screen , but we also use a 305 or higher screen expose it , use a non curable reducer or puff additive which doesnt harden when hot and use a squeegee and print with it , smooths better then roller

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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2017, 08:56:47 PM »
Old thread, but somehow some of you missed this guy at Long Beach... We like to think this is the BEST way to do it, and no, it's not as easy as we make it look to make these things.

http://shur-loc.mysimplestore.com/t/tefloc---ptfe-coated-fabric-panels


But will it hold tension at over 30 newtons? ;)

That is pretty awesome.  Will it work in conjunction with M&R's Hot Iron?
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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2017, 07:50:41 AM »
https://www.stahls.com/heat-press-cover-sheet


and gorilla tape. . .

Exactly how we do ours.
We have two homemade rollers.
Using conveyor belt roller from grainger, a floodbar and a metal bracket...

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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2017, 12:55:35 PM »
Old thread, but somehow some of you missed this guy at Long Beach... We like to think this is the BEST way to do it, and no, it's not as easy as we make it look to make these things.

http://shur-loc.mysimplestore.com/t/tefloc---ptfe-coated-fabric-panels


But will it hold tension at over 30 newtons? ;)

That is pretty awesome.  Will it work in conjunction with M&R's Hot Iron?



You could technically take it to 30N, but... No, just don't. We're actually looking at running them about 15N right now as the 'perfect tension' range for them. Just enough slack to absorb the curves, but not so tight they split.

And yes, M&R is using them for demos with both Hothead systems.
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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2017, 01:00:27 PM »
Old thread, but somehow some of you missed this guy at Long Beach... We like to think this is the BEST way to do it, and no, it's not as easy as we make it look to make these things.

http://shur-loc.mysimplestore.com/t/tefloc---ptfe-coated-fabric-panels


But will it hold tension at over 30 newtons? ;)

That is pretty awesome.  Will it work in conjunction with M&R's Hot Iron?



You could technically take it to 30N, but... No, just don't. We're actually looking at running them about 15N right now as the 'perfect tension' range for them. Just enough slack to absorb the curves, but not so tight they split.

And yes, M&R is using them for demos with both Hothead systems.
These work extremely well in our Hothead application!
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Re: what's the best way to make a smoothing screen?
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2017, 03:41:41 PM »
Way before Action, the hot head, we used a high tension 110 with exposed emulsion, a 75-85 duro squeegee and plastisol base and sprayed the bottom of the screen with 3M silicone.  Higher meshes would adhere, but a 110 stretched tight has dimples that help the release.  However both Actions and M&R's are more consistent and require no silicone spray.
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