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Offline Denis Kolar

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How would you print this?
« on: November 04, 2011, 12:40:23 PM »
I'm pondering the idea of printing this Black/flash/White/Flash/White dryer with black slightly undercutting the white.

Or, is it better to run this the "normal" way of PFPF white and butt-fitting the black?

Just wandering, there would be the same amount of flashing in both cases.

The file is just a sample, not a real artwork that will be printed

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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2011, 12:44:00 PM »
I would p/p. 
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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2011, 12:46:54 PM »
Dennis to easy...only thing to answer is butt or non butt print, if your press is reggie tight butt if not white first.
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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2011, 12:58:04 PM »
butt registration and print Black and 1st white than flash and then white again.  Use a 230mesh or higher for your black and you shouldn't have to flash in between the black and the first white
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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2011, 12:58:52 PM »
Dennis to easy...only thing to answer is butt or non butt print, if your press is reggie tight butt if not white first.

Press has good registration (Antec Legend) but for some reason, I like undercutting.
"if your press is reggie tight butt if not white first"  Should there be "if not black first"?

If there is a chance of bad registration, shout I be printing black first and flashing in between the black and white?

Just wondering, I'm still newbie to screen printing.

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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2011, 01:03:45 PM »
Especially if this were a fairly large run on a manual, I might try the white after the black, wet on wet, flash, and then the white again.
Butt registration.
 

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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2011, 01:16:37 PM »
Thanks guys :)

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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2011, 01:16:57 PM »
Especially if this were a fairly large run on a manual, I might try the white after the black, wet on wet, flash, and then the white again.
Butt registration.
 

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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2011, 01:19:08 PM »
 FROG, I can't steal your thunder ever man, lol
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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2011, 01:24:00 PM »
There is no reason to print with a trap. Especially that design. Like everyone is saying print the black, then a white flash then white again. The last white is going to tighten it up nice.

To be honest on an auto I would actually choke the white a hair and allow the gain of the white to fill in.

For me personally a slight peek of shirt showing is much better looking than a nasty trapped edge.
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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2011, 01:25:45 PM »
On charcoal you might be able to print it once.  Depends on the actual art.  If not, no biggie.  I would print black first through a 155 and then white and if needed a second white.

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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2011, 01:27:39 PM »
I forgot about the gain :(

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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2011, 01:39:38 PM »
Think you are over thinking the set up on this.  Pretty simple design and manually you can easily change print order without compromising production speed by that much if any. 

• Black (230 or higher mesh)
• White #1
• FLASH
• White #2

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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2011, 03:35:37 PM »
Think you are over thinking the set up on this.  Pretty simple design and manually you can easily change print order without compromising production speed by that much if any. 

• Black (230 or higher mesh)
• White #1
• FLASH
• White #2

out the door   ;D

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Re: How would you print this?
« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2011, 04:24:27 PM »
They've all got you covered on printing.  I'd like to say, that FROG craps thunders and piss's lightning.
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