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No, it does not depend on "my shop". M&R, professionals they are, confirmed the times using same mesh/emulsion/coating to make sure there wasn't something off with the unit or with our process. And yes, if you are using diazo added emulsions, the claim that LED is faster and cooler is absolutely bunk. Apparently nobody tested that prior to selling the units and they weren't aware that certain diazos would have such long exposure times. The units overheat at the times needed to shoot diazos- our entire array needed replaced due to a heat warped board. I'm hesitant to address your comment about an i image working faster than a 5k MH shooting multi up....I'll say that I love the concept of "insert screen, image, expose, resolve". I think that's great and a very natural workflow. But it is not faster than standalone imaging and MH shooting multi up. Again, we use LED so it's not that I'm against it. Just putting down some facts.
M&R, professionals they are, confirmed the times using same mesh/emulsion/coating to make sure there wasn't something off with the unit or with our process.
My comment about the I-Image working next to a 5k MH doing 4 up, (did not) and does not say that it was faster than. That wasn't the point of mentioning the 5k.I said "that 5k MH was doing 4 screens at a time that exposed at 8 min on 110 mesh's whilst thy were clicking away on the I-Image". Actually, it was longer than just 8, but I rounded. I've seen that happen twice. Two different shops. The one shop did 8 screens at a time. A whole wall, but it was for a longer exposure time. That shop had already had three different brands of DTS machines sitting right there (partially in use) whilst I installed an STEII. They were a big and busy shop. Now, I get that. I get why to use a 5k and expose 4 or 8 screens up at a time. I don't have anything against an 8 min exposure time (for 4 screens). That's good stuff.
Quote from: Dottonedan on January 17, 2017, 08:10:36 PM My comment about the I-Image working next to a 5k MH doing 4 up, (did not) and does not say that it was faster than. That wasn't the point of mentioning the 5k.I said "that 5k MH was doing 4 screens at a time that exposed at 8 min on 110 mesh's whilst thy were clicking away on the I-Image". Actually, it was longer than just 8, but I rounded. I've seen that happen twice. Two different shops. The one shop did 8 screens at a time. A whole wall, but it was for a longer exposure time. That shop had already had three different brands of DTS machines sitting right there (partially in use) whilst I installed an STEII. They were a big and busy shop. Now, I get that. I get why to use a 5k and expose 4 or 8 screens up at a time. I don't have anything against an 8 min exposure time (for 4 screens). That's good stuff.I would be PISSED if it took 8 min to expose screens!!! We actually did 4 up on the wall with the 5k unit. It is still semi set up for our all over screens. It has been a while and I'm not at work so I don't have the light units we have recorded. I want to say for us it was around 50-85 light units(roughly 4 min) to expose a set of screens. The high end was a 135S mesh coated 2/1, low end was the 380 coated 1/1.
Haha, ok Dan aside from power consumption and bulb life, tell me in what way LED exposure is superior to MH, for any shop. To clarify, my comment about M&R being pros was to be taken literally. We have longer times than they say you should have for the unit and they took the time to test and confirm that. If you use our emulsions and fully expose your screens the results should be about the same on any starlight unit. That is not a shop to shop thing, and that's according to them, not me. I'm ok with it all but I miss the MH is all I'm saying. Someday the LED units will get there I'm sure.
Hi,5 Sec Vacum and 60 Sec exposure for White Mesh 155, 2;2 Murakami SP emulsion. The emulsion comes right off when I spray with high power water pressure. I can actually pill the emulsion row by row with the water. Is this issue under expose? The graphic could wash out within few second. Then the graphic begin to wash out as well. Thanks.
Glad to see much response Murakami Japan gave me that 60 sec mark as starting point. They do not have M&R starlight so they throw that 60 sec number base on the exposure unit they have in their office.