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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2011, 01:16:46 PM »
Exactly!  Lots of repurposed stuff.  Which I'm of course perfectly ok with because I don't mind doing the research and finding out what they used. :)

I did this for a fuel management computer interface for a car... they wanted like $130 bucks for the cable to connect this thing to your computers COM port.  I found pics of the very basic circuit board online and started looking around.  I found a VERY similar circuit for Sega's Dreamcast to make it connect up via "modem" (com port)... it was taking TTL voltages and ramping them up to COM level voltages.  They warned though... don't use X version of the chip because that was for 5v, use Y version for 3.3v.  Well, I had a 5v source so BOOM!  I had the part number.

Sent off for a sample got a few chips and wired it up and first try that sucker worked!

Got creative and sourced some simple circuit boards from radio shack (actually the cheapest way to go)... required cutting one tracer to accommodate my needs.  Then I was off to the races... making these puppies and selling them online for $60 bucks... I had $12 bucks tops in it with all packaging.  I even put in an activity LED on mine that the original didn't have (there was two channels coming off that chip and I used one to drive the LED in parallel).

I sold a bunch of those little guys... saved people a bunch of money (and made me a bunch as in the process).  I took my dremel with a sanding wheel and sanded off the part numbers on the chip on each one. :)  Eventually some other guys in china figured it out and started doing them too... but I was tired of doing them by that point.  People were still emailing me for a couple of years trying to buy em.

I love me some reverse engineering!


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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2011, 01:19:45 PM »

The strapping I found and used for awhile was a cheaper fiber looking version of that above I just came across that today searching for what I used. I bought some frames off someone and he gave me a 4 new boxes of newman strips for free , so eventually I replaced the stapping with the newman stuff.

Many things "screen printing" are other products relabled those newman mesh clips is a perfect example they are really tool clips. Spot guns are cheaper on non screen printing sites as well as laser temp guns. Sometimes its pays to be cheap if you have the time to search.

Word... I picked up my spot cleaning gun on some amazon site for dirt cheap.  Fluid I haven't been able to source for cheap though.

Yeah, those clips are also repurposed in the fishing word as "rod holders" for boats.  Even have some of the sleeve based ones further down that page.

So what size of those number 10's will I need.  He also didn't have clips that I saw.  I'll ask... but who knows.  I also was trying to get his meter but he hasn't found it but sent an email to the guy that used to stretch them to see if he knows were he might have put it.

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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2011, 11:15:54 AM »
BTW what size are those newmans? Plan on buying all of them? Willing to hook me up with contact info?


Yo... check this out.

http://www.digitsmith.com/newman-roller-manual-screens-30108.html

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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2011, 11:26:34 AM »
Just a note: the Newman locking strips are chemical resistant. The strapping from Uline might work at first but may not hold up in the long run. It's also much thinner than the Newman strips, which may cause slippage issues with finer mesh.

I've tried several other locking clips ideas, the Newman ones are just right. I don't know where they source them and I don't care. Wasn't worth the time to look.

I keep all my screen stretching tools in a dedicated flat tool box - the kind that go behind a truck seat. Never lost anything, as it all goes RIGHT back in the box when I'm done stretching.
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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2011, 01:58:29 PM »
BTW what size are those newmans? Plan on buying all of them? Willing to hook me up with contact info?


Yo... check this out.


http://www.digitsmith.com/newman-roller-manual-screens-30108.html


Damnit Kevin, why did you do that?  I was hoping to get those before anyone else had a chance to pounce on it.
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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2011, 02:02:50 PM »
Sorry bro... Endless was helping me out and I'm swiping up all the ones local so I felt like I could pay it back.

Maybe he doesn't want the all 4 roller ones?  That's probably the ones you would want anyway right?

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« Reply #51 on: November 15, 2011, 04:35:59 PM »
Yeah, I'm just messing with you though.  As good of a price as that is, we still are being a little tight with our cash right now so I probably wouldn't have pulled the trigger on them regardless.  I hate to pass up a deal like that but damn we got so much money left out there right now it's ridiculous.  Right now, because we had our best two months ever means we got way more bills and receivables instead of money coming in.  Problem is it doesn't come in near as fast as it goes out, folks just don't seem eager to pay up in a timely manner.
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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #52 on: November 15, 2011, 04:57:44 PM »
I know how that is.

About a month ago I was staring at 3 checking accounts with less than a grand in each... starting to hit the panic button.

THE VERY NEXT DAY, they were totaling about 10k.

Of course all that money is basically spoken for but that's a spooky time.

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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #53 on: November 15, 2011, 05:08:59 PM »
Holding out right now as well. Lots of money tied up in PO's for schools. I back up school orders with cold hard cash , no credit cards here lol. Talk about scary times when the rents are knocking at your door. Buying my time and begging for patience.

Rethinking my anti credit card stance.
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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #54 on: November 15, 2011, 06:59:09 PM »
You just have to be SUPER diligent about paying it off every month.

But an even better answer is keeping a large padding in a money market account that you can tap into when times get tough... But ONLY then!  Not to buy new gear or anything like that purely your own back up plan vs a cc.

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« Reply #55 on: November 15, 2011, 11:58:04 PM »
My wife just sold a $50K job for embroidered bags to a net 45 customer.  Most times a job like this comes around it's not a big deal, but right now with so many invoices outstanding (last time I checked it was $90K) it is a little scary.  We have to pony up the money within 30 days but we won't get paid for probably 46 days!  Almost none of our bigger jobs are paying till they are overdue, it's getting old.
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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #56 on: November 16, 2011, 10:16:03 AM »
Do you guys have it setup where they are charged a late fee if overdue?  What about incentives to pay early?  (that will never happen with big customers though.)

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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #57 on: November 16, 2011, 10:33:51 AM »
My wife just sold a $50K job for embroidered bags to a net 45 customer.  Most times a job like this comes around it's not a big deal, but right now with so many invoices outstanding (last time I checked it was $90K) it is a little scary.  We have to pony up the money within 30 days but we won't get paid for probably 46 days!  Almost none of our bigger jobs are paying till they are overdue, it's getting old.

I have invoice that is not paid for over 50 days as of right now.
It is for $1400, not as close to the amount you are talking about....... and they are Net30
BUT...... what is the kicker.......... is that my wife works in their accounting department :)

Damn, I thought that I MIGHT have some connections there

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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2011, 11:30:01 AM »
Stop pissing off your wife. ;)

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Re: Best rollers for rear clamp manual.
« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2011, 01:37:51 PM »
Do you guys have it setup where they are charged a late fee if overdue?  What about incentives to pay early?  (that will never happen with big customers though.)

We are still doing things the old school way, the good ole boy way with handshakes and somebody's word.  Too bad that we can't do things that way anymore.  We never charge late fees either.  We just recently started putting all of our new customers on COD terms and I think we are going to have to change our older customers to a half up front, second half due at completion, delivery or pickup.
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