The Frustations of SPEC art!

[theMadArtist]

Could get no deposit from one of my best customers, who wanted "something like" this, requesting a 'sketch'....

[theMadArtist]

The only way I could handle this was by trying endless combinations of clip art shapes- and drawing a better skull!
It was rejected by his prospective client.

How would any of YOU have handled this; budget was only 200....

[mimosatexas]

laugh in their face?

No seriously...

[theMadArtist]

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! I SHULD have; but he wanted that client SO bad!

Mine ~

[Frog]

Could get no deposit from one of my best customers, who wanted "something like" this, requesting a 'sketch'....

All you could (should) do is figure time, your hourly rate, and present those terms. Give in, and you are telling this guy exactly what he thinks you may be worth.
As for a deposit, hopefully you learned your lesson from getting stiffed previously, because when his prospective client refuses to pay him, it will go up the food chain.

[theMadArtist]

So, if any of you want this- it's vector- 2 color- you can have it with a donation!

[theMadArtist]

Could get no deposit from one of my best customers, who wanted "something like" this, requesting a 'sketch'....

All you could (should) do is figure time, your hourly rate, and present those terms. Give in, and you are telling this guy exactly what he thinks you may be worth.
As for a deposit, hopefully you learned your lesson from getting stiffed previously, because when his prospective client refuses to pay him, it will go up the food chain.

Had NO idea how much time it took!
Ignored your advice on this- and lost my shirt.
My pants, too!

[GraphicDisorder]

You do it to yourself.

[ffokazak]

I used to take any job that paid me money, and figure it out afterwards. Most of the time i worked for pennies, or worse...for free. But I was desperate and needed to create to eat, and felt any work was better than no work.

Nowadays I do not even get out of bed without getting paid first, and if a client tries to see the art before paying, or gives me the bullsh*t line that they are going to sell 1000 of these, and pay after,  I reject them. Right there and then. I would rather not work and not get paid...

I think its clear that these types of clients get rejected, and keep trying until they can take advantage of someone.

My regret in business is that I wasted my time with people like this, when I could have been focusing on clients with budgets, who knows that you get what you pay for.

Keep your chin up, and start rejecting these guys. It feels great.

[tpitman]

Too many customers think your art talent is a gift so they shouldn't be expected to pay for it.

[Homer]

I used to take any job that paid me money, and figure it out afterwards. Most of the time i worked for pennies, or worse...for free. But I was desperate and needed to create to eat, and felt any work was better than no work.

Nowadays I do not even get out of bed without getting paid first, and if a client tries to see the art before paying, or gives me the bullsh*t line that they are going to sell 1000 of these, and pay after,  I reject them. Right there and then. I would rather not work and not get paid...

I think its clear that these types of clients get rejected, and keep trying until they can take advantage of someone.

My regret in business is that I wasted my time with people like this, when I could have been focusing on clients with budgets, who knows that you get what you pay for.

Keep your chin up, and start rejecting these guys. It feels great.

agree 110%, feel the exact same way.... Too many paying customers out there to waste my efforts on deadbeats. I do not understand why you would ever perform a service in the hopes of getting the job? Compare that to other industries. Go to a restaurant and tell the chef you want a steak, if I like it, I'll buy from you. If not, I'll go elsewhere.. when he's done slapping you in the head, he'll hand you a bill.....Only on rare occasions would I draw something for a customer before we discuss numbers. and it has to be a returning customer.

[theMadArtist]

I used to take any job that paid me money, and figure it out afterwards. Most of the time i worked for pennies, or worse...for free. But I was desperate and needed to create to eat, and felt any work was better than no work.

Nowadays I do not even get out of bed without getting paid first, and if a client tries to see the art before paying, or gives me the bullsh*t line that they are going to sell 1000 of these, and pay after,  I reject them. Right there and then. I would rather not work and not get paid...

I think its clear that these types of clients get rejected, and keep trying until they can take advantage of someone.

My regret in business is that I wasted my time with people like this, when I could have been focusing on clients with budgets, who knows that you get what you pay for.

Keep your chin up, and start rejecting these guys. It feels great.

Thank you, Homer!
That job FINALLY convinced me!
But-I have to whine to SOMEBODY! (Leer)

[mimosatexas]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=essNmNOrQto

[Underbase37]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=essNmNOrQto

Very well said.

Murphy

[Homer]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=essNmNOrQto

I am going to save this...absolutely spot on.