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Offline Maxie

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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2016, 05:18:40 PM »
The shirts might have been treated after dyeing, possibly silicone, this is possibly the reason they are not sticking to the pallet, if can also create a problem with the print holding so make sure you do some serious wash tests after printing.
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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2016, 06:59:13 PM »
Also, Enzyme wash....

We have been fighting that here for a few years.  We get in Reallllllly nice ringspun shirts and have to scrub after 150 shirts.

No silicon on the shirts - but they go through an Enzyme wash for softness.

The adhesive companies hate them ;)

Spray glue is the only thing that consistently holds them down.... mostly.....
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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2016, 07:27:25 PM »
ZSounds like I need to get some Tex-Tac! To answer question yes we have the flash set low just enough to keep the pallettes warm and hopefully make the tac last longer.

100% on the fabric content 100% cotton. Its the way the material is made thats different, it is really hard to explain but they have a very fine lint that covers everything, think talcum powder. It completely destroys the tack one or two times around, as bad if not worse than fleece.

New pallettes just arrived from Action, they have 3 inch cut outs and the pockets fit on just snug enough tack should actually not be a problem what so ever.
Be aware there are two Tex Tac. Tex Tac and Tex Tac 2 for fleece printing. Might be a good idea to get both.

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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2016, 07:58:17 PM »
This is making me think of one of my press daydreams, where we have some sort of floor-buffing machine with a water pump/sprayer on the side mounted into one of the heads with a flash afterward.

I think it has something to do with having sore shoulders.

+1 the textac though, have some problem orders that it's the only thing that works, if anything.


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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2016, 09:38:45 AM »
try cammie web spray tac

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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #20 on: November 21, 2016, 10:50:08 AM »
bet there made in Bangladesh, we use albatross web spray with these , the ones we have done almost have a dust like lint that builds up on the platens and everything else, basically glue a lot with these and make sure platens are warm before starting. They are nice and fine and print smooth but even though the ones we did were 100% cotton we cured at a lower temp closer to what we do 50/50 I noticed that there was a bit of dye migration that happened later.

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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2016, 04:12:41 PM »
 bitof an update, we got in some Chromalines Textac and so far it is working far better than the Tekmar TB10, even so the shirts still need a constant reglue.

We've moved on to pockets, fortunately they do not need adhesive. So anyone ever print pockets 4 up? Damn its fast!

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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2016, 07:54:33 PM »
Those are basically the same platens used for sock bottom tread (yes there still is a durable  closed cell "sock puff" ink that holds up to abrasion) Think of snowflake patterns etc for Christmas or herringbone for non holiday. They are still done in the millions although probably not domestically. Typically two loaders with a fast flash and one unloader. Knuckle busters at first for sure.
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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2016, 07:57:47 PM »
A popular Christmas gift I bet.
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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #24 on: November 22, 2016, 08:07:52 PM »
You got it Andy......that was a quick search!

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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2016, 12:58:00 PM »
Lots of Hospitals use those for patients, I'm guessing to help fro slipping on those floors
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Re: So we landed 80K shirts but there is a problem....
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2016, 08:21:46 AM »
A popular Christmas gift I bet.


My old company (in the 80's) did a ton of these for ski country, great winter work...

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