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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #30 on: November 09, 2016, 04:49:32 PM »
The election ended for me when Cruz dropped out. Yesterday I voted for Mcmullin here in VA. I stopped voting for the lesser of two evils a long time ago. The candidates the parties nominated were wholly unacceptable for me. It is always nice to see democrats lose, but at the end of the day they are both big government progressives with similar ideology. Trump doesn't even believe the things that come out his mouth. There are no core values or principles between his ears. He is a liberals caricature of a conservative. He did nothing but pander through the primary and general. Like Obama, he is many things to many people. He is what you want him to be. I'll give DT the benefit of the doubt for now... but I seriously doubt much will improve. I don't think he will be able to implement most of his campaign promises, but I am afraid what will happen to our economy if Trump ends up getting tariffs implemented. That could be devastating for our industry.


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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #31 on: November 09, 2016, 05:04:16 PM »
Probably a good day and good place to mention our Controversy Cage, a section limited to those who actually opt-in with a PM or email to me.
This is generally the only place to go for the truly controversial subjects that may get a bit more heated than we would generally permit on the forum.
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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #32 on: November 09, 2016, 05:28:31 PM »
Just regarding all of the celebs promising to leave because Trump won.
Leave. But renounce your citizenship while you're at it because you're not an American. You're filthy rich and spoiled. You have the wherewithal to do it, then breeze back in on a whim. Those who voted against Trump don't, and conversely, had Hillary won those who voted against her are moving on with their lives because, win or lose, it's still their country.
That said, I ran across this because whichever side you voted for you can't deny that it's funny as hell . . . L.A. street artist Sabo started putting these up -- there's a whole slew of them and a link to them on Drudge under "Celebrity Moving Sale Posters Flood LA" . . .
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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #33 on: November 09, 2016, 07:08:59 PM »
I suspect that this will lead to a lot of material for the comedians of the world. One of the more amusing thoughts that crossed my mind was visualising Trump as the new presidential character in any typical Hollywood disaster  movie, or maybe the ones where he has to deal with alien contact etc.
Not quite the Morgan Freeman type...

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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2016, 07:45:46 PM »
It was the most interesting and crazy election I've ever witnessed. Glad it is over.

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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #35 on: November 10, 2016, 08:06:27 AM »
I just wish more people educated themselves on the political system and what's really going on instead of reading FB click bait posts and basing their opinion on that. We really do have a ton of people that really have no idea what is going on and how to fact check. I find it hard to support anyone running for office with a fear based agenda versus this is what I am going to do and here is the plan.

If that is directed toward me, I certainly take exception. I know the gentleman that wrote the article and we have talk about this with each other. You probably didn't even read the article. Yesterday's election had NOTHING to do with policy. A majority of people in this country are tired of status quo and were willing to take a chance on Trump to change it up.

Actually, it wasn't directed at you. In fact, as I was posting my comment I got the warning that someone else had posted while I was writing my post. I am not sure what article you are talking about. In your own words, yesterday's election had nothing to do with policy. That in itself is a sad state of affairs. I understand the shake up people voted for and will accept the outcome. I am not bitter. I just wish people would educate themselves on the issues and not develop opinions based upon FB posts that have no merit. The stakes are way too high to simply roll the dice without knowing any factual information.

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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #36 on: November 10, 2016, 08:17:05 AM »
Voted Obama twice, there was NO WAY I was going to vote for HER.
Trump is an interesting character, lets see what he can do.
But FIRST, we need to let him to TRY to do something.

Would not label myself Republican or Democrat, if I really had to chose I would probably lean a bit to the Democratic side.
BUT, that side lost it when they chose HER over Bernie.

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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #37 on: November 10, 2016, 08:29:07 AM »
Voted Obama twice, there was NO WAY I was going to vote for HER.
Trump is an interesting character, lets see what he can do.
But FIRST, we need to let him to TRY to do something.

Would not label myself Republican or Democrat, if I really had to chose I would probably lean a bit to the Democratic side.
BUT, that side lost it when they chose HER over Bernie.

that's assuming they had a choice. It's come up now that Bernie might have been blackmailed. . .

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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #38 on: November 10, 2016, 08:31:41 AM »
Bernie would have cleaned the floor with Trump I suspect. Even though I don't really like him either.
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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2016, 08:32:13 AM »
I was never excited about Trump, he wasn't my 1st choice or even 2nd (or 5th). But, I'll be honest, voting against Clinton was effortless. Joyous, even.....

She is rotten to the core, little more than an "UNindited Felon" awaiting justice. Good riddance.....

Remember Larry Nichols? He was a CLOSE Clinton advisor (fixer, really... "Hit Man" even....) during the Clinton's Arkansas years. He turned on them during the impeachment. I read/heard him often during that time, and I even called him on the telephone once. (How I got his number is still a mystery) Anyhow, it was very enlightening to learn from him, the depths of depravity Bill was capable of that was largely buried by the mainstream media. But according to Larry Nichols as of last Sunday night when I heard him on the radio, compared to Hillary, Bill was just a lovable doofus. Hillary is pure evil by comparison. (my paraphrase)

So yeah. What I think re: USA Elections is we absolutely dodged a bullet, only to be sure there may be another one in the chamber.

But what frightens me is that almost 60 MMMMMmillion(!) voters must have thought that known sack of corruption would be better than a question mark serial adulterer with bad hair and and Orangutan spray-tan.

And speaking of fears, also I fear in the next 70 or so days, Trump's arguably excessive loyalty will cloud his judgement and he'll invite some of the same old foxes right back into the hen house. The next few weeks are "make or break" with the 3000 or so selections that need to be made. And lots of those foxes are jumping up, waving their arms, yelling ME! ME! ME!

Sheesh!....

My dad would be 90 next year, were he still alive. He was 1 (one) the last time the GOP won the White House, the House and the Senate.

There are NO EXCUSES NOW, so its put up, or shut up. Lets see what ya got. Socialism doesn't work for long, it never has. So lets see if you can fix this mess.

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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2016, 08:33:46 AM »
Bernie would have defeated Trump, Bernie does not have the baggage Hillary had so Trump would have been forced to stay on point and run on policy which we can all agree that department was always lacking. I will always say it as much as I do not agree with Bernies policies I do appreciate an honest man and that is what he was, I would prefer an honest man with policies I disagree with versus dishonest people that you never know what their true intentions are.
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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2016, 01:36:08 PM »
Bernie would have defeated Trump, Bernie does not have the baggage Hillary had so Trump would have been forced to stay on point and run on policy which we can all agree that department was always lacking. I will always say it as much as I do not agree with Bernies policies I do appreciate an honest man and that is what he was, I would prefer an honest man with policies I disagree with versus dishonest people that you never know what their true intentions are.

I think you are right, Bernie at least is honorable, the only thing they had other than his views(that a lot of people don't agree with) was his wife and her handling of some college that went bankrupt.  I don't recall the details, but compared to Clinton and Trump, they are angels.

The meltdown on twitter and facebook has been unreal.  One of the guys here said he can't tell anybody he voted for Trump because he knows he'll be attacked on FB.  My wife had some friends over yesterday and one of the ladies just wouldn't let up on why my wife could ever vote for him.  Even after my wife started the whole get together off with "we aren't talking politics."  My cousin is posting images of the Nazi occupation of Paris right now to drive his point home.

It's really sad that we are this divided.  Right now there are riots taking place..that is the EXACT kind of stuff I am tired of seeing.  You NEVER saw any of this by the tea party.  As a matter of fact, we cleaned up after ourselves.  Rioters right now are lighting crap on fire and clashing with police.

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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #42 on: November 10, 2016, 01:59:55 PM »
No excuse for riots regardless of who you support.  That said, people are reacting strongly because the guy has been shitting on minorities, immigrants, women, etc for the whole campaign and those groups are scared and angry.  I don't blame them for feeling that way, even if I don't condone their actions.

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« Reply #43 on: November 10, 2016, 02:05:34 PM »
You NEVER saw any of this by the tea party.  As a matter of fact, we cleaned up after ourselves.  Rioters right now are lighting crap on fire and clashing with police.


Malheur?

Certainly didn't clean up after that one...

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Re: USA Elections, whaddya think?
« Reply #44 on: November 10, 2016, 02:20:01 PM »
No excuse for riots regardless of who you support.  That said, people are reacting strongly because the guy has been shitting on minorities, immigrants, women, etc for the whole campaign and those groups are scared and angry.  I don't blame them for feeling that way, even if I don't condone their actions.

And anybody supporting Trump is a deplorable.  I have no problem with strong reactions, that is exactly what the tea party was.  I've been called a racist and sexist by my in-laws for the way I voted.

I was disappointed in 2008 and 2012, but I realized the sun still rises and life will go on.  I only see Trump president for 4 years. 

I'm sorry, but I DO blame folks for feeling that way.  It's an election, it's not the end of your life or the world.  There is no need for protests before he even takes office and does ANYTHING.  We understand you are upset, but get used to disappointment, life is full of it.