USA Elections, whaddya think?

[blue moon]

This is going to be an exception to the no political comments in the regular area so please keep it civilized!

Soooooo, whaddya think?

pierre

[Prosperi-Tees]

People spoke, issues won, people are tired of the corruption, being lied to, tired of self serving government. People want America to be great again, blue collar workers stood up and said enough of this crap and so did I.

[mk162]

I wasn't sure if the polling was 100% accurate heading in.  I felt like it oversampled democrats just because what seemed like a lack of enthusiasm.

It made for some great nail biting TV though.  I did think Trump's acceptance speech was very good.  It was a great departure from partisan rhetoric. 

I think what you saw was a repudiation of Clinton and the political elites more than it was a win for Trump.  I think the 2 best things to come out of this election is the end of the Clintons and (hopefully) the end of the Bushes.

[brandon]

They already made the movie about this several years back.

[GraphicDisorder]

Hell of a a$$ kicking was dished out and the establishment was defeated in amazing fashion. This should open doors for others going forward.

[brandon]

I just hope people do realize the factory jobs are not coming back. Shirts will not be made here again and so on. So if trade deals get ripped up with China - they will just go somewhere else for production of tvs and phones and other things. It doesn't matter who is president. We will continue to shoot ourselves in the foot. Nothing is going to change in that arena.

[Maxie]

Not being a American I was shocked by the whole process and mudslinging.
It's a democracy so we wish President Trump the best of luck.     
I believe in his acceptance speech he already toned down his rhetoric.
One thing, he talks about bringing all those jobs home but from what I read on TSB there are not that many people who really want to do them.
It's going to be interesting to see the relationship between a President who did not emerge from one of the parties and in fact clashed with them quite a lot.    Has this ever happened before?

[RICK STEFANICK]

People spoke, issues won, people are tired of the corruption, being lied to, tired of self serving government. People want America to be great again, blue collar workers stood up and said enough of this crap and so did I.
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Well said!

[3Deep]

People made a choice, so we get what we get good or bad and have to live with it for 4 years and if they like it 4 more after that.

[mimosatexas]

I just hope people do realize the factory jobs are not coming back. Shirts will not be made here again and so on. So if trade deals get ripped up with China - they will just go somewhere else for production of tvs and phones and other things. It doesn't matter who is president. We will continue to shoot ourselves in the foot. Nothing is going to change in that arena.

People don't realize they aren't coming back though.  That's a big part of why blue collar white voters supported him, but they truly don't get that globalization and automation aren't going away and will only increase unless some truly regressive and draconian policy is instituted that will hurt our economy even more.

I posted about this in the cage (but will water it down a bit here), but I really hope his supporters who think he is anti-establishment understand that he has surrounded himself with the likes of Giuliani, Christie, Gingrich, Bachmann, and a slew of other career politicians that have been embroiled in controversies and scandals throughout their careers.  It also looks like he is going to put people like Steven Mnuchin in charge of the Treasury, a Goldman Sachs exec. He is pretty clearly more of the same.  I'd also like to point out that incumbents overwhelmingly won in all other races, at the federal and state level.

I can only hope when he fails to live up to his promises for change, despite having a republican house, senate, and supreme court that his supporters hold him accountable, but I doubt it.

[aauusa]

I can only hope when he fails to live up to his promises for change, despite having a republican house, senate, and supreme court that his supporters hold him accountable, but I doubt it.
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when has this happened for any candidate.    NEVER  they all lie and tell you what they think you want and need to know.

[blue moon]

so there is plenty to be scared of as possibilities of a major screwup are significant. What about the possibility that it actually works out? Could he go in for 4 years, shake things loose and force a reset button? It's the Cleveland mentality in me, "There's always next year election!"

pierre

[Croft]

Well I hope when they put the wall up between Canada and the US they leave a gate open so I can visit Mickey in the winter

[mimosatexas]

The main difference this time around will be Trump has the full support of congress.

I believe most candidates at least try to fulfill their campaign promises, but compromises and obstructionism are an inherent part of politics, and the legislative results are often watered down (like the ACA) or fail to become law (like gun control).  Obama will be viewed by history as a good president who was mostly ineffective due to unprecedented obstructionism from his opponents in congress, not because he abandoned his campaign promises en masse.  Trump will likely be a rubber stamp for congress, but I doubt we even hear about his token "policies" like The Wall or congressional term limits once he is actually in office.

As for things "working out", I don't think white men have anything to worry about, but everyone else...

I just really hope we don't have another 9/11 type event because I seriously question Trumps ability to react in a rational and measured way to something like that.

[mk162]

Again, folks really didn't vote for Trump as much as they voted against Clinton and the establishment.  Trump is an outsider.  He's never held office in his life.  Will he be more of the same? Probably.

I don't see a wall happening, or half of what he promised.  It never does.  Remember, Guantanamo is still open.  We do need to start balancing the budget, $17,000,000,000,000 is a lot of money to be in debt.

His speech last night did give me some hope for a positive outcome.  And I think Hillary's speech today was great as well.  Now is the time for unity.  Stop protesting and move on, so you didn't get your way, focus your energy on something that benefits other people.

As for things "working out", I don't think white men have anything to worry about, but everyone else...

Do you have anything to back that up?