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Offline AAMike

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Re: Ink Recommendations?
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2016, 03:27:54 PM »
I would like to add, what emulsion are you all using for WB/DC?


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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2016, 11:40:00 PM »
Again, thanks to everyone for so much input. Will definitely be taking it all into account as we pick inks for trial runs!


@SoffeMike: Emulsion is not decided yet. For plastisol, we've been using Saati Textil PV, which is allegedly waterproof if post-exposed. I'm going to try that first (since we've got exposure times dialed in for that one), and then move on from there if necessary. My mildly educated guess is that it will work for short runs, but if I were doing long runs something stronger/purpose-built for WB would be in order. But if you or anyone else has input or suggestions, suggest away!
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Re: Ink Recommendations?
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2016, 06:46:03 AM »
I would like to add, what emulsion are you all using for WB/DC?

mike, Here we use that new product from auto type. PLUS TX..Its super stuff.. longer exposure though.
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« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2016, 06:48:38 AM »
I would like to add, what emulsion are you all using for WB/DC?
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Re: Ink Recommendations?
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2016, 07:19:09 AM »
No matter what WB DC I use, I have never been able to overcome what I call Zombie Skin. ("Picked up" ink that dries partially and re-adheres to subsequent colors as a latex baloon-like skin.)

Auto, manual, no difference.  :-\

I'm mostly plastisol nowadays as a result....maybe 85/15.

CCI WR25 emulsion, fully exposed. 156 T mesh mostly. I'm sure there's an answer, but the ones I've tried barely get me out to 75 pieces most days.  (Shruggs....)

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Re: Ink Recommendations?
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2016, 10:43:15 AM »
havent had a breakdown since starting to use SP1400 and my olec 5k.  Even on runs of 1000 with TW graphics white, which is the most aggressive waterbased ink I've printed with.  Spraying the back of the screen with silicone spray helps a bit with the zombie skin in my experience, but yea it still happens on longer runs...

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Re: Ink Recommendations?
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2016, 10:53:17 AM »
Again, thanks to everyone for so much input. Will definitely be taking it all into account as we pick inks for trial runs!


@SoffeMike: Emulsion is not decided yet. For plastisol, we've been using Saati Textil PV, which is allegedly waterproof if post-exposed. I'm going to try that first (since we've got exposure times dialed in for that one), and then move on from there if necessary. My mildly educated guess is that it will work for short runs, but if I were doing long runs something stronger/purpose-built for WB would be in order. But if you or anyone else has input or suggestions, suggest away!

If you're already using saati, try the PHU or the PHU2. exposes QUICK, and as long as you sit it in the sun/post expose it for about 10 mins, BULLET PROOF.
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Re: Ink Recommendations?
« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2016, 11:50:29 AM »
If you're already using saati, try the PHU or the PHU2. exposes QUICK, and as long as you sit it in the sun/post expose it for about 10 mins, BULLET PROOF.

I've heard good things about PHU from our rep, and will probably be trying that next. Thanks for the input - reps can be great, but it's always nice to here from someone who actually uses the product!

Any issues with reclaim with PHU?
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Re: Ink Recommendations?
« Reply #23 on: October 05, 2016, 03:58:52 PM »
If you're already using saati, try the PHU or the PHU2. exposes QUICK, and as long as you sit it in the sun/post expose it for about 10 mins, BULLET PROOF.

I've heard good things about PHU from our rep, and will probably be trying that next. Thanks for the input - reps can be great, but it's always nice to here from someone who actually uses the product!

Any issues with reclaim with PHU?

as long as you fully expose it, PHU reclaims like butter for us... if you under-expose it, you will have issues at reclaim.

we use the PHU for all of our work here... anything waterbase/discharge/hsa gets post exposure... plastisol just go straight to press.

the phu red holds great detail, exposes fast and makes a nice durable stencil.

with post exposure we've gone 1000+ impressions on a set of discharge screens with no problem.

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Re: Ink Recommendations?
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2016, 07:19:31 PM »


If you're already using saati, try the PHU or the PHU2. exposes QUICK, and as long as you sit it in the sun/post expose it for about 10 mins, BULLET PROOF.

I've heard good things about PHU from our rep, and will probably be trying that next. Thanks for the input - reps can be great, but it's always nice to here from someone who actually uses the product!

Any issues with reclaim with PHU?

as long as you fully expose it, PHU reclaims like butter for us... if you under-expose it, you will have issues at reclaim.

First post. Long time lurker. I'll give another shout out to the red/pink Saati PHU. He's right in that if you don't fully expose it reclaiming will be tough. I did find that if the emulsion is still adhering put some CCI Envirohaze on both sides, scrub, let sit for 5 minutes, and it will all usually come out. Rinse with pressure washer and hot water.

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Re: Ink Recommendations?
« Reply #25 on: October 05, 2016, 08:18:06 PM »
Times are changing but sometimes it still depends on what you can actually get. Being in New Orleans most (not all) ink distros treat Louisiana like a third world country. Which is somewhat correct as we get everything shipped in. I mean almost everything. So.... see what works for you and see what you can actually get or afford. Again not as bad as it used to be but if you get a 5000 shirt order and you can't get that warm red pigment you need in a gallon or whatever the next day what's the point. Always be prepared but sooner or later you need to have a distro that will be there for you if that makes sense.