"He who marches out of step hears another drum." ~ Ken Kesey
Printed my first 100 piece order with the Next Gen cotton. Pleased with the results. White is bright BUT I had to really work this ink to get it going. I print manually and the ink seemed pretty stiff to me compared to the Meteor white I had been using which seemed a lot creamier. Is there a chance I got shipped an older gallon before the recent update? I was printing through 155 mesh and really had to work at it the first 20 or so shirts before it settled in. I am all ears for tips. I really liked the finished product but it gave me a workout.
I ordered a 5 gal of the cotton white of a few weeks ago and have been running it on any cotton jobs we have. on medium and light colored garments, I've been getting great results with two strokes. very happy with the performance there. when running two screens of white on say a black shirt, I'm getting a crazy amount of puff out of the dryer. i saw somewhere in this thread that I could be over curing, so Ive tried lowering the temp/cure time but it hasn't seemed to make a difference. normally when we do an UB and top white, both screens will go on either a 140 or 160.so far thats the only real issue I've run into. i love the performance other than that. we have to slow the flood stroke down to get it to flood well, but joe told us that right off the bat.
About to order my first gallon of the NextGen cotton. Any tips for using it manually for the first time. Also noticed they have the NextGen Poly out now. Anyone have any experience with it?Thanks
We're all manual, we gave the nextgen cotton white a try, but it creeps up the squeegee a lot more than we like. Other members said it worked fine for them though...We have been enjoying the Nextgen Magic in some of our color mixes. And we've still been using the white to mix colors with as well.
When was the tweak made Pierre?
Quote from: alan802 on August 18, 2016, 09:36:10 AMDon't be afraid to mix in some Magic into anything if you want it to print better, even your white.It does flash fast and will cure lower than you expect. When used properly I doubt there is anything better. I know every shop is different but don't be afraid to push the limits on your print settings like pressure and print speed. If you are going to print it just like you would any other white ink then you probably won't see just how good the ink is. It's like driving a sports car, if you drive like a blue-hair then you'll never get to experience the reason why people by a sports car to begin with. Some manufacturers (I don't fault them at all for doing this) build their inks to appeal to the largest base of customers and doing so will hinder the performance of the ink. As this shop has progressed over the years we've had to continually adjust/mix new white inks to keep up with what I'm trying to accomplish on the press. There is no doubt that printing with light pressure and fast speeds creates a better print, in virtually every category. If you're ink won't perform at those levels where you'll actually see a difference then you'll have to work so much harder and do many different things to progress and make your shop more efficient and producing higher quality prints. If you're a plastisol shop then white ink is by far the most important part of your production loop and if you're choosing a white ink based solely on price then a huge percentage of what you print will be affected negatively. Unless you've found a cheap white ink that will print as good as the expensive ones, which I have yet to find. And I'm a white ink HO!.So lets say I get the Magic coming too. Would you go ahead and mix the whole new gallon with Magic and if so at what ratio? Thanks
Don't be afraid to mix in some Magic into anything if you want it to print better, even your white.It does flash fast and will cure lower than you expect. When used properly I doubt there is anything better. I know every shop is different but don't be afraid to push the limits on your print settings like pressure and print speed. If you are going to print it just like you would any other white ink then you probably won't see just how good the ink is. It's like driving a sports car, if you drive like a blue-hair then you'll never get to experience the reason why people by a sports car to begin with. Some manufacturers (I don't fault them at all for doing this) build their inks to appeal to the largest base of customers and doing so will hinder the performance of the ink. As this shop has progressed over the years we've had to continually adjust/mix new white inks to keep up with what I'm trying to accomplish on the press. There is no doubt that printing with light pressure and fast speeds creates a better print, in virtually every category. If you're ink won't perform at those levels where you'll actually see a difference then you'll have to work so much harder and do many different things to progress and make your shop more efficient and producing higher quality prints. If you're a plastisol shop then white ink is by far the most important part of your production loop and if you're choosing a white ink based solely on price then a huge percentage of what you print will be affected negatively. Unless you've found a cheap white ink that will print as good as the expensive ones, which I have yet to find. And I'm a white ink HO!