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Offline tonypep

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Would have sucked
« on: June 17, 2016, 02:42:09 PM »
But DC to the rescue again. No big piece of plastic.
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Offline jsheridan

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2016, 02:53:40 PM »
on the flip side, if you're a plasti shop and had to do this DC on a friday..

that blue rocks!
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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2016, 02:58:09 PM »
DC underbase with opaque WB on top or just DC opaque colors?

By the time I mix all those colors I'd be halfway done with a plastic-y print lol but I wouldn't want to wear it!

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2016, 03:05:43 PM »
DC colors no base

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2016, 03:22:11 PM »
Looks great.  I'm surprised that the red shirt discharged as well as it did...

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #5 on: June 17, 2016, 04:52:00 PM »
I'd be even more surprised if the red shirt washed well.  A lot of white DC prints that look great on red before turn to dirt after washing.

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2016, 04:59:05 PM »
I'd be even more surprised if the red shirt washed well.  A lot of white DC prints that look great on red before turn to dirt after washing.

Up the fixer and that should help a little with wash fastness.
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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2016, 08:38:06 PM »
I'd be even more surprised if the red shirt washed well.  A lot of white DC prints that look great on red before turn to dirt after washing.

Up the fixer and that should help a little with wash fastness.

We don't use or need fixatives with DC ink, hurts more than it helps if you are properly curing.

And sorry Tony I didn't mean to be on the negative, that is a waaaay better print than it would've been with plastisol.

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2016, 08:47:30 PM »
DC underbase with opaque WB on top or just DC opaque colors?

By the time I mix all those colors I'd be halfway done with a plastic-y print lol but I wouldn't want to wear it!

Like plastisol once you go all water base you have your stock and pantones mixed. With discharge you only activate what you need. Great shirt Tony. The only way in my opinion!

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2016, 10:01:28 PM »

We don't use or need fixatives with DC ink, hurts more than it helps if you are properly curing.


I use matsui every day and if i dont use the fixer, we get those muddy looking shirts after a few washings. im wearing one of our shirts right now that was printed months ago and its still wicked white. i cant say that about the ones without the fixer.

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2016, 09:54:45 AM »

We don't use or need fixatives with DC ink, hurts more than it helps if you are properly curing.


I use matsui every day and if i dont use the fixer, we get those muddy looking shirts after a few washings. im wearing one of our shirts right now that was printed months ago and its still wicked white. i cant say that about the ones without the fixer.
How are you curing?

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2016, 01:30:29 PM »
I'll back John up on this one... Matsui without 3% fixer-N doesn't do so well in wash tests.

we are curing with a M&R Mini-Sprint (Gas) 4fpm belt speed in a 10' chamber (2.5 min of retention time) at 350 degrees.

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2016, 01:56:31 PM »

How are you curing?



Workhorse Quartz bulb dryer. It's slow as molasses but the cure is solid without a doubt.
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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2016, 10:09:31 AM »
Well that's good to know,  we do use some Matsui hsa product.

Over here in Rutland land the last time we used a fixer "fiberlock" the test print washed worse than without.

Anyone need some fiber lock by the way?  Haha.

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Re: Would have sucked
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2016, 12:01:38 AM »
Well that's good to know,  we do use some Matsui hsa product.

Over here in Rutland land the last time we used a fixer "fiberlock" the test print washed worse than without.

Anyone need some fiber lock by the way?  Haha.

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We run fixer in all our Rutland discharge. Keeps the colors a lot brighter than without it after tons of washes. We also use only high mesh so it helps hold the thinner deposit better. We cure with a Mini Sprint.
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