GOCCOPRO 100 Digital Screen Maker?

[Frog]

Yep, the tone was on both sides. We tend to get very defensive about our loyalties.

I have no doubt that these proprietary systems work great for some shops, whether the best/most-bang-for-the-buck/easiest/ or any of the multitude of other qualities by which we judge
We can all agree, however (at least all here, and the poster eventually) that the statements made in the product's promotion are ludicrous at best, but we have all gotten pretty used to outrageous claims and/or poor comparisons made in many ads.
A few years ago,  I was asked by my father to offer advice to a friend's sandal company that was screen printing their soles, and was rebuffed immediately when I questioned their use of the Xpress system. It's all they knew, and they weren't about to get caught up in the "expensive, complicated, and messy system so common in other shops"

The Frogmobile 3000
Higher mileage than a Humvee!
Higher performance than a Smart car!
Higher level of interior comfort and ride quality than a Jeep Wrangler!
(at least, compared to these jokers,  my claims are a little more accurate, though the comparisons are still silly)

[Homer]

Where would someone with a decent startup dryer and press get so much totally incorrect information? And then put it on their website as if it's the gospel, and not expect some blowback? Who is selling them supplies and no information on the trade? They are just so misinformed/ignorant (same thing of course) and it makes them look really bad to anyone with knowledge of the field..

Steve

That's what I wondered. And outside of that, don't they do any research? I would think just thumbing through a few trade mags /websites you would actually learn that 90% of their die hard info is wrong...even reading a few posts here would disprove the "week long exposure".....although you can't believe everything you read on the interwebs.....

[3Deep]

I had to take another look at the goccopro unit, after thinking it thru it does have a place in the screen print world maybe not high production, but 1 to a few doz shirts on a manual yes.  I know the guy said it would do multiple colors but I'm having a problem believing that seeing that you tension the screen with the image on it, but still I can see it being useful in a smaller shop or to knock out very simple low pc one to two color jobs.

darryl

[mimosatexas]

I cant see how it would be more efficient or optimal to do a different process from normal screen prep for small runs, and on top of that you lose control over a lot of variables like eom.  The only place I see this working is in a situation where someone doesnt have the ability to make screens in a standard way like in a dorm room or a shared office type of situation, or they are just starting out and have no idea what to do.  I successfully made screens with less than $100 of equipment in a bathroom in a rental house for almost 2 years without issue.  For a while I had 4 total screens and used them over and over and over.  Having to toss the mesh each time seems more expensive as well...

I think the tone in the thread is pretty much entirely a reaction to the "nosebleed" comment.  It's pretty offensive to imply that what all of us do everyday makes people sick and that we wouldn't have done the research to find an alternative if faced with that kind of reality.  If I got a nosebleed from making a screen I sure as hell would change something...

[prozyan]

I got a nosebleed from making screens today.

Trying to put on in my rack above my head, it slipped out of my hand and whacked me in the face.

Worst part is I bled on the wet emulsion.  Now not only do I have a swollen and tender nose, I have to call a customer and tell them its going to take another week to remake their screen.*

Mondays rock!

*According to some sources

[alan802]

If anyone would forego the traditional method (when they have the screens, press, ability, etc.) and do a job using the Gocco instead then they should have their head examined.  The only scenario this makes sense is for those who don't have any better equipment.  The fact that she is using this thing instead of the other equipment in her shop pics that were on her website tells me a ton, which I won't get into.

[jvanick]

If anyone would forego the traditional method (when they have the screens, press, ability, etc.) and do a job using the Gocco instead then they should have their head examined.  The only scenario this makes sense is for those who don't have any better equipment.  The fact that she is using this thing instead of the other equipment in her shop pics that were on her website tells me a ton, which I won't get into.

you mean the knockoff harley shirts?

LOL.

Wonder how HD would feel about those

[Frog]

I'm a little curious about claims of "zero carbon footprint" with these disposable stencil/mesh panels as well.

[Prosperi-Tees]

And the uncured plastisol that is left on the "mesh" they are throwing away.