GOCCOPRO 100 Digital Screen Maker?

[bimmridder]

But John, it says they have the "Latest state-of-the-art "direct to screen" technology." so it must be true

[tonypep]

Barth..........you have all the toys, don't tell us you don't have a few of these.

[inkman996]

Direct from their site.

What is Screen Printing?
Traditional Method

Traditional screen printing is best described as a process by which ink is pushed through a very fine screen onto a surface, such as a t-shirt or some paper mesh. To achieve the desired image, the artwork is first designed on a computer and printed onto special paper. The image is then exposed onto a screen which is coated in a light sensitive chemical. After air drying, the light sensitive coating can be washed out with water, exposing the image on the screen. The screen must then be set out to cure, which hardens the coating - this process is sometimes referred to as exposing or burning the screen. Once this 5 day process is complete, you are ready to push ink through the screen. Once the entire job is completed you must strip the coating off, a process that involves very harsh chemicals which, even with a respirator, cause nose bleeds.

What disturbs me about this is miseducation of customers and flat out making what we do look bad by bold faced lying. It is obviously a marketing ploy to take away from their competitors but man straight up lying? Nose Bleeds? WTF! Screens are reclaimed with diluted periodic acid.Tho hazardous in pure form its safe to work with and far from causing nose bleeds. And BTW companies like New Buffalo make 300+ screens a day with ease.

[bimmridder]

It's state of the art. You KNOW I gots it!

[Shanarchy]

If my screen guy asks for a raise, I'm going to tell him he's not working hard enough. I've never even seen his nose bleed.

[Sbrem]

Direct from their site.

What is Screen Printing?
Traditional Method

Traditional screen printing is best described as a process by which ink is pushed through a very fine screen onto a surface, such as a t-shirt or some paper mesh. To achieve the desired image, the artwork is first designed on a computer and printed onto special paper. The image is then exposed onto a screen which is coated in a light sensitive chemical. After air drying, the light sensitive coating can be washed out with water, exposing the image on the screen. The screen must then be set out to cure, which hardens the coating - this process is sometimes referred to as exposing or burning the screen. Once this 5 day process is complete, you are ready to push ink through the screen. Once the entire job is completed you must strip the coating off, a process that involves very harsh chemicals which, even with a respirator, cause nose bleeds.

What disturbs me about this is miseducation of customers and flat out making what we do look bad by bold faced lying. It is obviously a marketing ploy to take away from their competitors but man straight up lying? Nose Bleeds? WTF! Screens are reclaimed with diluted periodic acid.Tho hazardous in pure form its safe to work with and far from causing nose bleeds. And BTW companies like New Buffalo make 300+ screens a day with ease.

Wow, I've been all wrong for most of my life... I glad I saw this, now I can start over... Holy Sh!t that's funny. I wonder if this person has ever even seen a real shop...

Steve

[Zelko-4-EVA]

Direct from their site.

What is Screen Printing?
Traditional Method

Traditional screen printing is best described as a process by which ink is pushed through a very fine screen onto a surface, such as a t-shirt or some paper mesh. To achieve the desired image, the artwork is first designed on a computer and printed onto special paper. The image is then exposed onto a screen which is coated in a light sensitive chemical. After air drying, the light sensitive coating can be washed out with water, exposing the image on the screen. The screen must then be set out to cure, which hardens the coating - this process is sometimes referred to as exposing or burning the screen. Once this 5 day process is complete, you are ready to push ink through the screen. Once the entire job is completed you must strip the coating off, a process that involves very harsh chemicals which, even with a respirator, cause nose bleeds.

What disturbs me about this is miseducation of customers and flat out making what we do look bad by bold faced lying. It is obviously a marketing ploy to take away from their competitors but man straight up lying? Nose Bleeds? WTF! Screens are reclaimed with diluted periodic acid.Tho hazardous in pure form its safe to work with and far from causing nose bleeds. And BTW companies like New Buffalo make 300+ screens a day with ease.

maybe someone was doing lines of emulsion remover powder? 

[mk162]

maybe someone was doing lines of emulsion remover powder? 

crap, I shouldn't be doing that?

[mimosatexas]

Maybe I should try post exposing my screens for 5 days instead of 5 minutes for discharge....

[bimmridder]

They are in the Milwaukee area. Next time I'm up that way I'll have to see if I can sneak in and steal some of their trade secrets. Sounds like a cutting edge company.

[alan802]

Haters gonna hate

I think the traditional screen printer should take notice of this state of the art technology and incorporate it into their business model and after a few months it will probably take over as the main source of production.  It seems like it is gonna dominate our industry in years to come and if most of us don't get on board we will be passed up by this GOCCOPRO thing.


<Faught noise here>

[Homer]

what's sad is the amount of misinformation blasted all over their website John posted up. nose bleeds? wtf?

someday, this person defending the goochie coochie pro or wtf it's called is going go "AHHH that's what those guys where talking about"....

[3Deep]

Yall just jealous M&R didn't make it first all funnin aside they have regular screen print equipment I saw in there shop and they still believe it takes that long to burn screens Ha they must still be using the old stuff and I don't think it took that long, but hey do what makes you money

darryl

[Frog]

what's sad is the amount of misinformation blasted all over their website John posted up. nose bleeds? wtf?

someday, this person defending the goochie coochie pro or wtf it's called is going go "AHHH that's what those guys where talking about"....

That's the shame of the tone of thread after she joined in. She may not want to continue to look into the details of our standard methods (or the newest advances in auto coating and DTS.)

[Sbrem]

I'll agree Andy, that the tone went to pretty much blasting this person as being incredibly ignorant, as opposed to being kind and understanding about it, but the arrogance of their response is what made that happen. I hope they do finally respond to what's being written. Maybe this person should read Danny G's post about 45K shirts last week with 700 screens produced. Where would someone with a decent startup dryer and press get so much totally incorrect information? And then put it on their website as if it's the gospel, and not expect some blowback? Who is selling them supplies and no information on the trade? They are just so misinformed/ignorant (same thing of course) and it makes them look really bad to anyone with knowledge of the field... I'd like to see them reply, so's to get some real help from all of us here; it's what we do everyday, help each other...

Steve