"He who marches out of step hears another drum." ~ Ken Kesey
Quote from: Ryan on March 31, 2016, 12:05:23 PMI think they are pretty close. within a couple 1000 dollars. What I found that makes a big difference, is the extras. I think the Flashes are several 1000s in price different, table up vs head down. You will need a smaller air compressor set-up to run the ROQ vs the sportsman. You might want to check the numbers again. The Sportsman even in a 12 color would not use more than 3 h.p. of air at full speed and the price of the press and flashes is comparable if not lower. Fell free to call or contact me if you would like to discuss. rich.hoffman@mrprint or Cell 630-240-9076. Office 800-736-6431
I think they are pretty close. within a couple 1000 dollars. What I found that makes a big difference, is the extras. I think the Flashes are several 1000s in price different, table up vs head down. You will need a smaller air compressor set-up to run the ROQ vs the sportsman.
Quote from: 244 on March 31, 2016, 01:12:11 PMQuote from: Ryan on March 31, 2016, 12:05:23 PMI think they are pretty close. within a couple 1000 dollars. What I found that makes a big difference, is the extras. I think the Flashes are several 1000s in price different, table up vs head down. You will need a smaller air compressor set-up to run the ROQ vs the sportsman. You might want to check the numbers again. The Sportsman even in a 12 color would not use more than 3 h.p. of air at full speed and the price of the press and flashes is comparable if not lower. Fell free to call or contact me if you would like to discuss. rich.hoffman@mrprint or Cell 630-240-9076. Office 800-736-6431 If blue 244 didn't build it no one can. In all my time trolling as you call it on the board, blue 244 can't compliment another company. If your gonna be a bully as they call you, at least be a good one. If blue is so superior to all the other's, at the next trade show at least challenge them to a friendly competition. May the best press win. The crowds would be huge just to watch, and both companies would sell a ton of equipment.
My 2 cents. I don't run a M&R auto either but have had more than a few visits and conversations with Rich. If you got a gripe go about it more professionally then just trying to slam the guy. I've talked and met with just about every auto manufacture President and I can tell you first hand not one of them gave the feedback, help, recommendations, etc. that Rich has given to most people including myself. Therefore, ask yourself if your current manufacture can give you the kind of service that Rich and M&R have provided (Should be industry standard). Again just my 2 cents and I don't run a M&R auto but maybe in the near future.A
Quote from: fishman08 on April 19, 2016, 02:14:42 AMQuote from: 244 on March 31, 2016, 01:12:11 PMQuote from: Ryan on March 31, 2016, 12:05:23 PMI think they are pretty close. within a couple 1000 dollars. What I found that makes a big difference, is the extras. I think the Flashes are several 1000s in price different, table up vs head down. You will need a smaller air compressor set-up to run the ROQ vs the sportsman. You might want to check the numbers again. The Sportsman even in a 12 color would not use more than 3 h.p. of air at full speed and the price of the press and flashes is comparable if not lower. Fell free to call or contact me if you would like to discuss. rich.hoffman@mrprint or Cell 630-240-9076. Office 800-736-6431 If blue 244 didn't build it no one can. In all my time trolling as you call it on the board, blue 244 can't compliment another company. If your gonna be a bully as they call you, at least be a good one. If blue is so superior to all the other's, at the next trade show at least challenge them to a friendly competition. May the best press win. The crowds would be huge just to watch, and both companies would sell a ton of equipment.Methinks that you are a wee bit fixated on your dislike for Mr Hoffman and his company as your complaints about his attitude don't quite ring true in the specifically quoted post. In said post, he seems merely to defend and correct specific statements made about price and air requirements.As we know. he is indeed passionate about his product. Perhaps you should read a little more, and respond to a more pertinent post.Better yet, while you are not alone in your feelings about Rich, and perhaps even have a legitimate gripe occasionally, lets see a little more positivity and start sharing some of your industry wisdom. If all you have to offer is your hatred for all things blue, you will start seeming a little too much like the very person who drove us to create this very place a few years back in an effort to provide a troll-free forum for friendly screenprinters. How about remaining critical, but trying a little harder to show that you meet those qualifications. The two are not mutually exclusive.