Author Topic: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....  (Read 3176 times)

Offline ffokazak

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Hey guys, just wondering if anyone has come across this.

We run a CHIIID on regular sized pallets. The machine indexes so fast that the sleeve are getting "Flung" up and touching open areas on the bottoms of the screens. Obviously worse on larger sizes. Its not a thick player of ink to clean off of the sleeves, but another step that my guys have to do nonetheless.

Aside from slowing down the index {Which is not an ideal solution in my opinion) I am at a loss.

Anyone else experience this on their presses?



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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2016, 01:29:49 PM »
you can do two things. Use a larger pallet (18" instead of 16") so you have less free shirt or dial down the speed on the size of pallet you are using. Feel free to contact me for how to adjust properly.
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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2016, 01:31:28 PM »
We experience this with our Sportsman EXG.

Standard index speeds.  It will get worse the faster the machine indexes.....

Worse again with lightweight fabrics that flip easier.

We have to slow down the index speed to one pallet size larger.  No way around it....
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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2016, 01:45:24 PM »
How fast do you need to go.  We work on a 600 per hour speed when in production.  The MHM will go faster as will your CHIIID. Really not fair to expect someone to load at 1000 plus per hour all day.
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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2016, 02:11:08 PM »
hang weights on the sleeves... or slow it down a little...

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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2016, 02:29:58 PM »
I thought about hanging weights, but if you think about motion it's just giving more of a back swing to launch the sleeves on top of the platens.  I would personally pin the sleeves to each other under the platen. 

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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2016, 02:59:16 PM »
same press, same problem.  change pallet size in servo options.  problem solved.
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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2016, 03:48:32 PM »
you can do two things. Use a larger pallet (18" instead of 16") so you have less free shirt or dial down the speed on the size of pallet you are using. Feel free to contact me for how to adjust properly.
Contact me directly and I will send you a video of over 1000 shirts per hour being run easily on a Challenger III with the 18" pallets. no problem with sleeves!! File too big for here.
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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2016, 04:06:30 PM »
We had sleeves and hoodie strings flinging up into the ink. Just slow the indexer down one pallet size and it seems to stop all issues.
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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2016, 04:11:20 PM »
Rich:

Is the video on your Youtube channel?
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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2016, 04:11:42 PM »
Hmm lots of good points.

I like to have the most time possible for positioning, removing lint/rogue strings etc.  If your press cycles every 6 seconds, but 3 of those are spent lowering, and indexing that only leaves 3 seconds with the board in front of the operator. If it indexes in .75 seconds, you have that much more time.

Yesterday I showed the guys who's boss in the back by printing 200 Black "Staff" prints (So a few inches of stroke distance) at 2 second index on the press. I think we were at 92 dozen per hour.  Yes the likelihood that we print at that pace every day is slim to none. But it is fun to open the press up once in a while :)



Rich, is there a way to adjust the index slightly? So not a whole pallet size? The Large pallet is quite slow... 




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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2016, 04:12:25 PM »
Sell tank tops
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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2016, 04:32:13 PM »
Hahah yeah! Tank season is coming up for sure!

Theres never an issue on Small tees, Only for the big boys!


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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2016, 04:34:36 PM »
hoodie strings are always my problem.
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Re: Indexing so fast that the sleeves brush open areas on screens....
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2016, 04:35:45 PM »
We also have had that happen with strings on sweatshirts. We just draw the string tight and slip in in the hood. Pull the hood back to shape as you unload.

I'm all for tank top weather, too
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