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Offline noortrd

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PVC FREE
« on: February 15, 2016, 11:39:05 AM »
IS there any good manufacturers of PVC FREE INKS (NOT WATER BASED) .?



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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2016, 11:45:46 AM »
Here is our newest PVC free ink .. War Paint .. Take a look and let me know if you have any questions.
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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2016, 11:49:50 AM »
Here is our newest PVC free ink .. War Paint .. Take a look and let me know if you have any questions.

we tried a pre-production sample of the war paint and liked it, but we do so many low-quanity poly and blends here that setting up 2 screens just doesn't work in our model.

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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2016, 12:14:08 PM »
EKO from Rutland. Acrylic and won't dry in your screen.

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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 03:57:47 PM »
Wilflex just launched their Wilflex One non-pvc:  http://www.polyone.com/products/screen-printing-inks/wilflex-one-non-pvc-plastisol-inks

Also International Coatings has some real good specialties in non-PVC:  http://www.iccink.com/AXEON%20Non-PVCNon-Phtalate.htm
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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2016, 03:23:35 AM »
I thought axeon had special effect only, not regular color yet.

EKO price is one of the highest on the market...

I tested many many many brand since 2008, lot of ink are crap (feel of the print, bad wet on wet printing..)

The best of the best I tried is Ultrasol G6, and it sells in the US, not yet for Europe.


I am currently testing a turkish brand, and soon the new Wilflex one. Funny in 2008 it was the Wilflex Quantum one, not really good, so I hope they improve their chemistry.
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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2016, 08:44:31 AM »
I thought axeon had special effect only, not regular color yet.

EKO price is one of the highest on the market...

I tested many many many brand since 2008, lot of ink are crap (feel of the print, bad wet on wet printing..)

The best of the best I tried is Ultrasol G6, and it sells in the US, not yet for Europe.


I am currently testing a turkish brand, and soon the new Wilflex one. Funny in 2008 it was the Wilflex Quantum one, not really good, so I hope they improve their chemistry.

You are correct about IC Azeon - even though the web site states more; the colors/base are not available.

Wilflex has gone through a few iterations of PVC free since Q1.  Q1 was an industry first, and yes there were issues - notable hand/feel and aging.  The new Wilflex One is a wholly different chemistry approach that solves these.
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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2016, 02:19:19 AM »
Wilflex One has an excellent handle, is incredibly easy to mix, has great printability and wash durability - I personally put it through its paces some weeks back and was delighted with the results - the chemistry for these types of inks is not easy to master for any manufacturer - however, I think Wilflex have pulled a rabbit out of the hat here


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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2016, 03:05:43 AM »
Do you have any price tag ? how much % more expansive is it compare to wiflex epic ?

Thank you  ;D
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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2016, 08:33:47 AM »
Bonjour Mon Amis :)  It will definitely be more expensive to purchase than the EPIC Range of inks by the gallon - the chemistry behind these systems is more expensive by its nature and is likely to remain that way for some time.

The main purpose of the system is to satisfy the ever increasing need for NPVC systems, often initiated by major Global Brands - water based systems have so far been the answer - however - we must remember to consider the "Cost" of running the systems we run and not just look at the bucket price.

There are costs associated with water based/discharge which we often forget - such as mixing time (tweaking for Pantone accuracy), color shifts during runs, downtime, increased house keeping, clean up hassle, mesh staining plus waste and disposal etc, etc - I will be running trials of the Wilflex One around Europe - I will keep you up to date
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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2016, 09:05:42 AM »
American use all plastisol but Europe need non plastisol. Is there any reason for this?

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2016, 09:31:34 AM »
American use all plastisol but Europe need non plastisol. Is there any reason for this?

You will find an increasing demand in the Americas - It is really driven by retail Brands such as Nike, adidas, NEXT, M&S,C&A - promotional print shops are still somewhat unaffected and continue to use plastisol both in Europe and the Americas, in Europe there are specific regions that print for retail and this is where the demand is highest - some European countries have no need for non pvc at all - these are typically domestic printers who do not Export and have no Restricted Substance List to adhere to
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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #12 on: February 19, 2016, 09:36:23 AM »
We are located in pakistan . For american garment export its all plastsiol and for europe its allcpvc free.

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« Reply #13 on: February 19, 2016, 10:03:58 AM »
We are located in pakistan . For american garment export its all plastsiol and for europe its allcpvc free.

That is very interesting indeed - thank you for sharing
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Re: PVC FREE
« Reply #14 on: February 19, 2016, 03:43:09 PM »
Philip,

Do you know if this ink will be GOTS approved ? In today's market, this is mandatory in my opinion.

I will be very happy if I could try it.

Thank you for all this informations



Bonjour Mon Amis :)  It will definitely be more expensive to purchase than the EPIC Range of inks by the gallon - the chemistry behind these systems is more expensive by its nature and is likely to remain that way for some time.

The main purpose of the system is to satisfy the ever increasing need for NPVC systems, often initiated by major Global Brands - water based systems have so far been the answer - however - we must remember to consider the "Cost" of running the systems we run and not just look at the bucket price.

There are costs associated with water based/discharge which we often forget - such as mixing time (tweaking for Pantone accuracy), color shifts during runs, downtime, increased house keeping, clean up hassle, mesh staining plus waste and disposal etc, etc - I will be running trials of the Wilflex One around Europe - I will keep you up to date
www.broceliande-serigraphie.com
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