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Offline Doug S

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Glitter base and flakes
« on: January 28, 2016, 06:42:52 PM »
Is there a specific ratio of glitter flakes to base or is it just a visual thing?  Also, as far as .008 flakes go what would be your go to mesh?  Has anyone tried printing it through an 80 mesh?
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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2016, 06:51:15 PM »
we do a 24 mesh for .008 flakes, although we've played with 38 and 64 mesh as well and it's worked out well.

Matsui Glitter base recommends up to 25% by weight... we run 20% with great results.
(we've switched over to waterbase for 99% of our glitter jobs)

Wilflex Epic Particle Base doesn't specify a mixing %, but we generally run 20% with good results, although you can definitely feel the 'glossy' base more than with the waterbase option.

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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2016, 07:01:29 PM »
Thanks, that'll steer me in the right direction.
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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2016, 07:18:36 PM »
Ok here is another one for you.  If a customer wants red glitter.  Do you have to print red glitter flakes over red ink since the base is clear?  Or can you print red glitter flakes over a white Ub and it looks red?  I know that sounds like a dumb question but I've never messed with the stuff before only premixed glitter inks.
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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2016, 07:21:04 PM »
personally, I'd recommend tinting the base as well, so that where the base shows through you'll see red.

I've never done an underbase under glitter.... just straight glitter on the shirt (same with shimmers)

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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2016, 08:54:01 PM »
Take a look at Nova base from Wilflex as well.

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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2016, 09:03:14 PM »
Take a look at Nova base from Wilflex as well.

Murphy
What's the difference/benefits with the nova base?  Haven't heard of that one before?

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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2016, 09:06:01 PM »
We use Nova as well. Mix the glitter into it. Go through a 26 mesh, thick stencil. Never underlay the glitter. That's how we do it.
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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2016, 09:13:21 PM »
I was told it is softer, and doesn't feel as thick. It's supposed to feel like waterbase glitter/shimmer.

Soaking into the fabric more and leaving the glitter sitting on top keeping it soft and shinny.

The Wilflex rep was talking it up over dinner at the ISS show.

I haven't tried it yet, but I have a gallon on the way.

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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2016, 09:19:35 PM »
We use Nova as well. Mix the glitter into it. Go through a 26 mesh, thick stencil. Never underlay the glitter. That's how we do it.
That's a good enough endorsement for me.

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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2016, 09:39:18 PM »
I'm gonna have to get some in to test with as well.

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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2016, 10:12:51 PM »
The Nova will "evaporate" in the oven, and it is a more dry glitter look. Again. That's just how we do it. I'm not saying it's the best way
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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2016, 10:36:13 PM »
I like the idea of less "gloss"

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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2016, 07:03:51 AM »
Great input on this.  For those of you with Cts do you have any trouble with head strikes on a coated 26 mesh or do you use a film printer?
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Re: Glitter base and flakes
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2016, 11:23:00 AM »
We prefer wb glitters. Way better. However if you need to tint a silver, a true red is unlikely.