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Offline Rockers

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longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« on: January 18, 2016, 08:18:20 PM »
we are encountering much longer exposure times on any of our emulsion we are using. Murakami Aquasol TS and ChromaLime. Times have doubled for screens we have coated in the afternoon and dried and then exposed the next morning. If we don`t double the times then the emulsion  washes right of the screen.
Never had this happen before. I assume it`s due to our new screen room which is getting pretty cold over night in winter .
Does this sound like a familiar problem?


Offline Ross_S

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2016, 08:07:14 AM »
I have had similar issues in the past (Cold shop) but never had to double exposure but definitely had to lengthen it.  So it's not unheard of or you got a bad batch of emulsion.  Try putting a space heater in your dark room and bring the temp up some then try it again.

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2016, 08:51:51 AM »
if it's getting that cold at night the screens might not be fully dry if they were coated the day before.

do you have some way to read the moisture on the screens?

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2016, 11:41:52 AM »
No matter where you are in the world..

Screens LOVE an environment that is 40% or less humidity and 70-90 degrees F.

A simple dehumidifier will keep a small screen room very warm.
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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2016, 12:51:33 PM »


No matter where you are in the world..


A simple dehumidifier will keep a small screen room very warm.

This^^^

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2016, 03:08:15 PM »
Odd.  In the past week (as it has actually gotten cold finally in New England) we noticed this same thing happening.  Aquasol HV...I figured it was our bulb.  We do 100-200 screens a day, sometimes excessive double post exposure, high density screens coated 300µ-600µ thick with 300 to 600 second exposures.  It's been 3 months, figured it was time.

Well, put the new bulb in today and barely dropped our exposure times.  I wonder if we might be afflicted by the same thing...never noticed it in the cold before.  But perhaps it's the batch of emulsion?

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2016, 03:51:45 PM »
i do know that if is below freezing our supplier will not ship it out as the emulsion will get too cold in UPS.  they wait till the temp at there shop is above freezing

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2016, 05:07:34 PM »
I had a five freeze once. I opened it and it was partial normal looking and a big globby stringy mess in the rest. Easy to tell.

I'd hate to be the person in my supplier's warehouse that shipped a drum to me on a Friday in below zero weather, instead of shipping the following Monday as I specified. I didn't even have to open it, I just refused it.
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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2016, 06:53:38 PM »


No matter where you are in the world..


A simple dehumidifier will keep a small screen room very warm.

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yep.  thats all i use to keep my room warm and low humidity.  And when it is hot I have a small window unit AC that keeps it below 90.

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2016, 01:02:39 AM »
if it's getting that cold at night the screens might not be fully dry if they were coated the day before.

do you have some way to read the moisture on the screens?
They should be dry. I always turn the heater and dehumidifier on in the screen room once I get to the shop in the morning. Still an hour later the screens don`t expose right. That`s especially noticeable on the high mesh counts.

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2016, 01:23:24 AM »
I always turn the heater and dehumidifier on in the screen room once I get to the shop in the morning.

Never turn em off in the first place.
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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2016, 04:45:51 AM »
Do you have a fan blowing at the screens?
If not try a fan, because I think the colder temperature is condensing the air thus making it thicker and heavier. This will form a denser boundary layer on the surface of the emulsion like an insulator. get a fan and disrupt that boundary layer so their will be evaporation.


http://kula.geol.wwu.edu/rjmitch/L9_evaporation.pdf

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2016, 07:44:56 AM »
Plug in timer on the heater so it starts up a couple hours before open time?

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2016, 08:40:41 AM »
Yah don't turn them off at all just leave it on until the weather breaks.  I also use to use Aquasol HVP before I switched to CCI

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Re: longer exposure times due to low temperatures
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2016, 09:55:06 AM »
I'm having similar issues here in NY, especially recently since winter finally came around. Our Screen room is pretty cold, but I do keep our coated screens sectioned off with a small space heater and dehumidifier... but it's still pretty cold.  I'm about to put in a bigger space heater and keep a closer eye on the temp and humidity.  But for some reason it seems to be affecting our S-mesh screens the most....