CLEAR glitter in Clear Base over Colored Plastisol????

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

Does anybody do Clear Glitter Base over Plastisol for the color?

I've never done this. I've got some little girl's blingy stuff to go out. I intend to print them as transfers, so the glitter base would go down first.

Will that even work?

Thanks!

[mimosatexas]

Glitter can act a little funny on transfers, depending on the brand.  I find the flatter finish from heat pressing hurts the reflectivity a bit as well.  As for coloring the clear glitter by printing it over a color, I haven't had great results either, same with tinting it.  The best option really is to use a pretinted glitter.  Like with lots of these "unusual" inks, one stroke offers awesome choices, both for glitter grain size/effect and color options.

[tonyt79]

I would think if it is going on top of a design a crystallina finish would be better than a glitter. The glitter to me would be over powering. I have not done either as a transfer tho

[Colin]

If you are doing a Clear Glitter Flake:

You need to sprinkle it on top of a wet plastisol then cure it.

Its called Sugar glitter.

The clear flake is able to reflect the light is because it is sticking out of the ink.  The only other way I know of, to create this effect with direct printing, is to use a base that evaporates/shrinks back from the flake.  I am not aware of how to do this as a transfer.....

Best of luck!

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

If you are doing a Clear Glitter Flake:

You need to sprinkle it on top of a wet plastisol then cure it.

Its called Sugar glitter.

The clear flake is able to reflect the light is because it is sticking out of the ink.  The only other way I know of, to create this effect with direct printing, is to use a base that evaporates/shrinks back from the flake.  I am not aware of how to do this as a transfer.....

Best of luck!

That makes sense now after trying it as a transfer. It was a colossal flop.

But I "needed" to PLAY with my brand new(!) Vacuum Platen so it's all good. I can see ZERO glitter in the transferred print, and your explanation makes perfect sense. It was NEVER going to work as a transfer...

But it gives rise to another question re. Sugar Glitter:  Does it stick pretty well even with multiple washings? It also sounds like a potential nightmare with glitter going everywhere.

Anyhow, to the people tempted to try this as a transfer, DON'T bother.

[jvanick]

just buy the glitter particles from Meadowbrook and either use plastisol glitter base, OR my new favorite Matsui "RB" base... (I believe it's called rubber base or might be glitter base)...

Meadowbrook sells glitter in all different particle sizes and colors...  the .004 particle size is really nice for a bling effect without the huge flakes (and prints well through a 86 mesh screen).  or if you want to pull out the 24 mesh screen doors, you can get the  .008 size particles.

[tonypep]

Union, among others, makes a killer wb glitter that you can tint. Way better and far easier than dry app. That fad faded away mainly due to difficulty and washfastness.

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

I have used the colored Meadowbrook glitter in a clear base plastisol both as direct print and I tested some transfers. The 4 mil particle size was very nice indeed. The transfer "tests" that I did were on cold peel and I didn't use adhesive powder. The gelled transfers stuck to cotton tees like stink sticks to poop...but the last pass on paper was normal plastisol. The COLORED glitter transfer was a nice effect actually, but a different look and feel than direct printing the exact same components in reverse order.

@ Tony, does the wb glitter base have decent opacity? Or do you have to print over a DC'd base.... I wonder if the Union you mention might actually be a similar base to the Matsui Jason referrences above, except you don't have to add the glitter.

[tonypep]

The union products are finished glitter inks. Excellent opacity and better shine than plastisol. Very very soft. We use them for a well known fitness company and now they use them in their off-shore factories.

[Colin]

I second the waterbase glitters as being absolutely amazing!

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

I think the appetite for "bling" seemingly comes and goes, but around our place, the wimmen folks come in a swoon over it. We keep some fanwear with bling in our retail room, and we intend to ride the wave until there is no more wave to ride. We are the tiny player in our market for fanwear, but we have have sorta developed a rabid following among the fairer sex. Maybe its a regional thing.

The big player in our market is obviously paying attention, but their knock-offs are mostly mediocre. Irritating. Once in a while they hit a homer though, and he's a crafty business man. We don't appreciate the knock-offs, but it is what it is.

The giggly wimmen types will come in and spend too much so we are willing to charge too much, and it's kinda fun! It partly makes up for having to shave four tenths of a cent to get a big bid we really don't want, printing shirts we really don't like, and waiting really too long for payment.

I saw a sample of WB glitter that Charlie Taublieb had at a workshop, but he didn't know for sure what it was, other than it was WB and from across the pond. This is probably the same type of thing.

Do the tint formulas sorta work on the WB Glitter, or do you have to retreat to mad scientist laboratory?

[tonypep]

Its best to tint with PCs and keep formulas. We can turn gold into copper or bronze. Silvers into almost anything. And don't use the cure additive on the Union products or if you do use way less than recommended. The ink will take on a shelf life. Mfgr states it is optional

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

Tony I snooped around with the vendors I know that handle Union for the WB glitter inks you've alluded to, without success. Do you have a name or number for the products? Or maybe a vendor that WILL know?

I called Mike Ukena and he is on vacation. I even called your plant and you'd already left for the day.

I'm ready to try some.

Thanks!
Stan

[tonypep]

Technically they are shimmers Aerotex Atex-M120-Q Silver and Atex-220-Q gold. They may have tru glitters but we love these

[Itsa Little CrOoked]

Thanks!

Shimmer, meaning the particles are smaller than glitter particles? Or is it more complicated than that....